Time: Sun Jun 15 20:20:34 1997
	by primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA13468
	for [address in tool bar]; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 20:20:51 -0700 (MST)
	by usr06.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA12037;
	Sun, 15 Jun 1997 20:18:44 -0700 (MST)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 20:17:22 -0700
To: (Recipient list suppressed)
From: Paul Andrew Mitchell [address in tool bar]
Subject: SLS: OKC had jury problems (fwd)

>Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 23:15:07 -0400 (EDT)
>From: Norman Olson <nolso@sunny.ncmc.cc.mi.us>
>To: Paul Andrew Mitchell [address in tool bar]
>Subject: Re: OKC had jury problems
>
>
>Sure,  Send it along, Paul...   I hope it
>will help give a different point of view.
>
>Kind Regards,
>
>Norm Olson
>
>
>
>On Sun, 15 Jun 1997, Paul Andrew Mitchell wrote:
>
>> Norm,
>> 
>> Terrific insights here!  May I forward your
>> comments to clients of the Supreme Law School?
>> Please response with this message, so I can
>> forward the whole thing, if your answer is "yes".
>> 
>> I am standing by.
>> 
>> /s/ Paul Mitchell
>> http://www.supremelaw.com
>> 
>> 
>> At 09:13 AM 6/15/97 -0400, you wrote:
>> >
>> >The war between the DOJ and the American people continue
>> >according to the principle that power corrupts.   The cycle
>> >cannot be broken by the justice system if the justice system
>> >is itself contaminated with corruption.   To ask the courts
>> >to rectify the wrong is like asking the fox to find out why
>> >the chickens are missing.
>> >
>> >   Keys and others MUST pursue the grand jury objective and
>> >have a trial.   Regardless of the absurd theater of bleeding
>> >hearts who don't want the emotional trauma revisited.  We must
>> >search and discover what were the full causes of the OKC
>> >tragedy.   The DOJ KNOWS that proximate cause and responsibility
>> >will echo in any such trial and will further discredit the
>> >regime in Washington.   Such a trial must be avoided.
>> >
>> >   It's going to be an interesting year.
>> >
>> >Kind Regards,
>> >
>> >Norm Olson
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >On Sat, 14 Jun 1997, Paul Andrew Mitchell wrote:
>> >
>> >> Norm,
>> >> 
>> >> Great insights!  Here's my take,
>> >> to a BBC reporter, infra.
>> >> 
>> >> What's your take on the Oklahoma
>> >> state grand jury, convened by
>> >> Rep. Charles Key?
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> /s/ Paul Mitchell
>> >> http://www.supremelaw.com
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> At 02:54 AM 6/15/97 +0100, you wrote:
>> >> >>Dear Clients,
>> >> >
>> >> >Me too?
>> >> 
>> >> Of course!
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >>I would like to poll all of you on a
>> >> >>proposal that has tenaciously stayed
>> >> >>in my head for 72 hours and running.
>> >> >
>> >> >Your concentration span is to be admired.
>> >> >
>> >> >>On the theory that McVeigh is really
>> >> >>working the other side of the fence,
>> >> >
>> >> >Specifics? 
>> >> 
>> >> The theory is that McVeigh is BATF.
>> >> The Pentagon expert proved that there
>> >> were charges drilled in the bearing
>> >> columns.  Radiate your research
>> >> outwards from that point of origin.
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >>I would like to prepare a formal proposal
>> >> >>to Oklahoma state Representative Charles
>> >> >>Key, as follows:
>> >> >
>> >> >>Federal jury selection is fatally flawed
>> >> >>because of the class discrimination which
>> >> >>is evident in 28 U.S.C. 1865.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >You mean they all were for capital punishment or they all came 
>> >> >from a certain class? You dont have class juries do you? "Selection"
>> >> >is a real threat. Please explain "flawed" in this context.
>> >> 
>> >> Visit the Supreme Law Library at URL:
>> >> 
>> >>   http://www.supremelaw.com
>> >> 
>> >> and read "Juries in Check around the Nation"
>> >> and "State Citizens Cannot Vote."  This will
>> >> give you the background you need.
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >>The flaw exists for selection of federal 
>> >> >>grand and petit (trial) juries.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>McVeigh was indicted by such a flawed grand
>> >> >>jury, and he was convicted by such a flawed
>> >> >>trial jury.  Therefore, his conviction is 
>> >> >>null and void.
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >>The Oklahoma state special grand jury has
>> >> >>been approved by the state Supreme Court.
>> >> >>
>> >> >>The People would intervene in McVeigh's
>> >> >>appeal, requesting an indefinite stay of
>> >> >>proceedings, pending the outcome of the
>> >> >>JSSA challenge now before the 8th Circuit.
>> >> >
>> >> >You've lost me with jargonism
>> >> 
>> >> "Intervention of Right" is a procedure under
>> >> American jurisprudence, allowing a third party
>> >> to join the action.  In this case, the third
>> >> party would be the "People of the United 
>> >> States of America," the Plaintiffs in the
>> >> Billings federal case in which I am the 
>> >> private attorney general.
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >>I would bring the Request for Intervention,
>> >> >>as a private attorney general.
>> >> >
>> >> >For?
>> >> 
>> >> McVeigh was indicted and convicted by federal
>> >> juries that were not legal bodies.  The People
>> >> have a vested interest in fixing the problem
>> >> with the Jury Selection and Service Act, 
>> >> Title 28, United States Code, section 1865,
>> >> because it conflicts directly with section 1861.
>> >> Think of the first and last years of the American
>> >> Civil War, and you will remember the section 
>> >> numbers.  You can view these laws right on
>> >> the Internet:  use Alta Vista to search for
>> >> "United States Code", then go to Title 28,
>> >> then sections 1861 and 1865.  It's all right
>> >> there, in plain English.
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> >
>> >> >>Along with this stay request, the People
>> >> >>would request judicial notice of the
>> >> >>state grand jury proceeding in Oklahoma.
>> >> 
>> >> A "stay" is a temporary suspension, or halt,
>> >> in the proceedings, until something else is
>> >> settled, finally, usually by the U.S.
>> >> Supreme Court.
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >judicial notice?
>> >> >What does that mean?
>> >> 
>> >> If a separate law suit is proceeding,
>> >> the court may not know about it, and 
>> >> would not need to do anything about it anyway,
>> >> unless a litigant brings it to the attention
>> >> of the court, formally, and asks the court to
>> >> do something about the implications of a 
>> >> decision, one way or the other, in that other
>> >> court.
>> >> 
>> >> For example, we have a major challenge to the
>> >> Jury Selection and Service Act now before the
>> >> 8th Circuit Court of Appeals in St. Louis,
>> >> Missouri state.  If this case is decided in
>> >> favor of the defendant/appellant, then it will
>> >> have the side-effect of overturning McVeigh's
>> >> indictment and conviction too, because he was
>> >> born within one of the several states of the
>> >> Union, if I am not mistaken.
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >>If the Oklahoma jury selection procedure
>> >> >>is similarly flawed, then their state
>> >> >>law should be challenged, and corrected,
>> >> >>at once, so that they can proceed with their 
>> >> >>investigation.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >So what are you "looking for" in a jury?
>> >> 
>> >> Impartiality, and a body drawn at random.
>> >> Imagine if American juries only selected
>> >> women as candidates!  That would be an
>> >> unconstitutional discrimination based on
>> >> "class", a gender-based class.  
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> >Why?
>> >> 
>> >> The U.S. Supreme Court has already ruled,
>> >> several times, that such class discrimination
>> >> causes the jury to be an illegal body.  Many of these
>> >> cases arose from civil rights cases, in which
>> >> some 150 juries in a row were all white, 
>> >> within a district which had a mixture of 
>> >> blacks and whites.  The blacks were being
>> >> discriminated against "as a class."  So, 
>> >> any "class" discrimination, even if not racial,
>> >> is still unconstitutional, according to the
>> >> U.S. Supreme Court decisions we have located.
>> >> 
>> >> As it turns out, if you are qualified under the
>> >> U.S. Constitution to serve in our Congress, 
>> >> then you are NOT qualified to serve on a 
>> >> federal grand or petit jury.  THAT's how serious
>> >> the flaw is.  See Article I, Section 2, Clause 2,
>> >> and Article I, Section 3, Clause 3.
>> >> 
>> >> "Citizen of the United States" in those provisions
>> >> means "Citizen of ONE OF the States United."
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> >
>> >> >>Rep. Key would be on the leading edge of
>> >> >>this movement, particularly if the Oklahoma
>> >> >>state law(s) need amending.
>> >> >
>> >> >I would support Charles right down the line, 
>> >> >but Whew.... the timing of this?
>> >> 
>> >> It would take someone with a firm grasp of
>> >> American law, both federal and state, to 
>> >> create some order out of this chaos.  The
>> >> leading case is U.S.A. v. Gilbertson, which
>> >> I wrote.  The OPENING BRIEF was mailed on
>> >> Wednesday, so it is technically filed, 
>> >> several days ahead of the deadline.  This
>> >> means that the 8th Circuit will HAVE to rule
>> >> on it.  They are only one level below the
>> >> U.S. Supreme Court, so the stakes have now
>> >> become rather large, to put it mildly.
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> >
>> >> >>This would be a wedge into exposing federal 
>> >> >>manipulation of federal grand juries,
>> >> >
>> >> >As? Specifics? lotsa questions as to "how"...this would 
>> >> >expose and the result of such an exposure.
>> >> 
>> >> See "The Kick-Back Racket" in the Supreme Law
>> >> Library.  U.S. Attorneys are getting rewarded
>> >> for obtaining "politically correct" indictments --
>> >> $25,000 to the Attorneys, $35,000 to Clinton.
>> >> This violates 41 U.S.C. 51 et seq. -- the
>> >> Anti-Kickback Act of 1986;  the penalty is stiff
>> >> for accepting kick-backs like this.  The 
>> >> Constitution also forbids the President from
>> >> accepting any additional emolument during
>> >> his  term in office;  so, we are talking
>> >> high treason here, at least.  The "authority"
>> >> for these "performance rewards" was repealed
>> >> in 1993: see the Performance Management and
>> >> Recognition System Termination Act of 1993.
>> >> 
>> >> >
>> >> > and also 
>> >> >>federal trial juries as well, a la "The Kick-
>> >> >>Back Racket" and other related themes.
>> >> >
>> >> >Every trial in the US compromised?
>> >> 
>> >> Most federal criminal trials are being
>> >> brought in federal courts which have 
>> >> NO CRIMINAL JURISDICTION whatsoever.
>> >> See "Karma and the Federal Courts"
>> >> in the Supreme Law Library.
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >>  All high level trials
>> >> >never come to court? The ratio?
>> >> 
>> >> DOJ is warring on the American People,
>> >> while their employees are entrained in 
>> >> a massive criminal conspiracy themselves.
>> >> Violating any fundamental Rights is a 
>> >> felony violation of Title 18, United
>> >> States Code, Sections 241 and 242.
>> >> We are talking "conspiracy" with a
>> >> small "c" here!  :)
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> >Dept of Justice vendetta tactics against the People?
>> >> 
>> >> Yes.  I call it an extortion racket.
>> >> The "United States" is an organized
>> >> criminal extortion racket, and they
>> >> are using the courts and juries to
>> >> perpetrate this racket.  Couple this
>> >> with the perjury and property conversion
>> >> rackets now rampant within the Department
>> >> of Justice, and you have a field day 
>> >> as a private attorney general.
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> >MOVE? Abu-Jamal? Cabazon? PROMIS? Casolaro?
>> >> 
>> >> Yes, Casolaro broke the Inslaw scan, in which
>> >> the Department of Justice stole some very
>> >> sophisticated record matching, database, and
>> >> bank telecommunications software, and then
>> >> bribed a federal judge to block the inevitable
>> >> law suit which resulted.  Talk to the president
>> >> of Inslaw;  he can brief you.  DOJ is using
>> >> a successor to PROMIS to track commercial liens
>> >> and other commercial paper through the banking
>> >> system;  as those records travel through the
>> >> Internet, they pick up lots of "leads" to 
>> >> other assets, e.g. bank accounts, credit
>> >> card accounts, etc.  Piece-a-cake for a 
>> >> good computer programmer (I have 26 years in
>> >> advanced computer systems development).
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> >Bush? Shackley? Wackenhut? Skull and Bones?
>> >> 
>> >> Yes.  The banking syndicate is behind it all --
>> >> Brussels, London, Amsterdam, Hong Kong --
>> >> mostly European families;  New York City too,
>> >> of course -- International Monetary Fund and
>> >> their cohorts.  Powerful computers are really
>> >> C-H-E-A-P now.  I just bought 16 megabytes of
>> >> RAM for $100.  In 1980, we had to pay $45,000
>> >> for a one megabyte upgrade to a super minicomputer.
>> >> That CPU was one million instructions per second.
>> >> Now, Digital Equipment is up to 500 million 
>> >> instructions per second, with their Alpha chip.
>> >> That may even be low, because the latest CPU's
>> >> are doing more than one instruction per
>> >> clock cycle.  The alpha is cycling at 500 MHz!
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> >
>> >> >>I would like to get your feedback on this
>> >> >>proposal.  This idea has the potential to
>> >> >>thrust jury selection into the limelight,
>> >> >>and buy time for the Oklahoma state grand
>> >> >>jury to get their act together.
>> >> >
>> >> >I heard that a jury (may have been possible to provide) its own 
>> >> >lawyer to the foreman, that would clarify issues?
>> >> 
>> >> Yes.  They are called "runaway juries," because
>> >> they oust the prosecutor and take over everything
>> >> they can get their hands on, including private
>> >> counsel.  They have that power, under our 
>> >> Tenth Amendment, because juries predated the
>> >> Declaration of Independence;  their roots are
>> >> in British common law, remember?
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> >
>> >> >Paul,
>> >> >I would like to see an investigation not a trial in oklahoma
>> >> >and an appeal to the international community to assist 
>> >> >tracking down strassmeir and friends and seal'em up once 
>> >> >and for all.
>> >> 
>> >> Then you must interview Rep. Key, and fill him
>> >> in.  I will be trying to reach him by telephone
>> >> next week.  
>> >> 
>> >> Roger, if that OKC federal building had been FILLED
>> >> with fertilizer, it still would not have melted
>> >> structural steel that way;  such an intense 
>> >> explosion, which blew OUTWARDS, had to have been
>> >> detonated inside the building, at the base of
>> >> those I-beams;  they were decapitated right at
>> >> their bases, and then all that weight came crashing
>> >> down on top of them.  My active hypothesis is that
>> >> C-4 was drilled into the I-beams, and then pressure
>> >> detonators were affixed to the outsides of the
>> >> beams.  The fertilizer bomb was the trigger --
>> >> it generated enough pressure to detonate the C-4.  
>> >> Makes perfect sense.
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> >
>> >> >Anything that would serve those ends, i would buy.
>> >> >
>> >> >with my ten cents.
>> >> >
>> >> >Rr
>> >> 
>> >> Many thanks, Roger.  You can help us, because
>> >> the American press are bought and sold down the
>> >> river.  Be careful with this story, because you
>> >> may experience real heat yourself.  BBC has its
>> >> limits, as we both know.  Also, watch your back,
>> >> and be careful with whom you share this stuff.
>> >> This is explosive stuff in more ways than one.
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> >
>> >> >>I am standing by.   Hmmmm  Me too.........
>> >> >
>> >> >Policy Office
>> >> >Music Industry Human Rights Association
>> >> >
>> >> >email mihra@styx.cerbernet.co.uk
>> >> >
>> >> >Founded in respect of UN50, MIHRA INTERNATIONAL 
>> >> >represents all areas of music, its industry and its cultural 
>> >> >and economic activities. 
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> 
>> >> ========================================================================
>> >> Paul Andrew Mitchell                 : Counselor at Law, federal witness
>> >> B.A., Political Science, UCLA;  M.S., Public Administration, U.C. Irvine
>> >> 
>> >> tel:     (520) 320-1514: machine; fax: (520) 320-1256: 24-hour/day-night
>> >> email:   [address in tool bar]       : using Eudora Pro 3.0.2 on 586 CPU
>> >> website: http://www.supremelaw.com   : visit the Supreme Law Library now
>> >> ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776 : this is free speech,  at its best
>> >>              Tucson, Arizona state   : state zone,  not the federal zone
>> >>              Postal Zone 85719/tdc   : USPS delays first class  w/o this
>> >> 
>> >> As agents of the Most High, we came here to establish justice.  We shall
>> >> not leave, until our mission is accomplished and justice reigns eternal.
>> >> ========================================================================
>> >> [This text formatted on-screen in Courier 11, non-proportional spacing.]
>> >> 
>> >
>> >
>> 
>> ========================================================================
>> Paul Andrew Mitchell                 : Counselor at Law, federal witness
>> B.A., Political Science, UCLA;  M.S., Public Administration, U.C. Irvine
>> 
>> tel:     (520) 320-1514: machine; fax: (520) 320-1256: 24-hour/day-night
>> email:   [address in tool bar]       : using Eudora Pro 3.0.2 on 586 CPU
>> website: http://www.supremelaw.com   : visit the Supreme Law Library now
>> ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776 : this is free speech,  at its best
>>              Tucson, Arizona state   : state zone,  not the federal zone
>>              Postal Zone 85719/tdc   : USPS delays first class  w/o this
>> 
>> As agents of the Most High, we came here to establish justice.  We shall
>> not leave, until our mission is accomplished and justice reigns eternal.
>> ========================================================================
>> [This text formatted on-screen in Courier 11, non-proportional spacing.]
>> 
>
>

========================================================================
Paul Andrew Mitchell                 : Counselor at Law, federal witness
B.A., Political Science, UCLA;  M.S., Public Administration, U.C. Irvine

tel:     (520) 320-1514: machine; fax: (520) 320-1256: 24-hour/day-night
email:   [address in tool bar]       : using Eudora Pro 3.0.2 on 586 CPU
website: http://www.supremelaw.com   : visit the Supreme Law Library now
ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776 : this is free speech,  at its best
             Tucson, Arizona state   : state zone,  not the federal zone
             Postal Zone 85719/tdc   : USPS delays first class  w/o this

As agents of the Most High, we came here to establish justice.  We shall
not leave, until our mission is accomplished and justice reigns eternal.
========================================================================
[This text formatted on-screen in Courier 11, non-proportional spacing.]

      


Return to Table of Contents for

Supreme Law School:   E-mail