Time: Sun Jun 15 20:20:34 1997 by primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA13468 for [address in tool bar]; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 20:20:51 -0700 (MST) by usr06.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id UAA12037; Sun, 15 Jun 1997 20:18:44 -0700 (MST) Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 20:17:22 -0700 To: (Recipient list suppressed) From: Paul Andrew Mitchell [address in tool bar] Subject: SLS: OKC had jury problems (fwd) >Date: Sun, 15 Jun 1997 23:15:07 -0400 (EDT) >From: Norman Olson <nolso@sunny.ncmc.cc.mi.us> >To: Paul Andrew Mitchell [address in tool bar] >Subject: Re: OKC had jury problems > > >Sure, Send it along, Paul... I hope it >will help give a different point of view. > >Kind Regards, > >Norm Olson > > > >On Sun, 15 Jun 1997, Paul Andrew Mitchell wrote: > >> Norm, >> >> Terrific insights here! May I forward your >> comments to clients of the Supreme Law School? >> Please response with this message, so I can >> forward the whole thing, if your answer is "yes". >> >> I am standing by. >> >> /s/ Paul Mitchell >> http://www.supremelaw.com >> >> >> At 09:13 AM 6/15/97 -0400, you wrote: >> > >> >The war between the DOJ and the American people continue >> >according to the principle that power corrupts. The cycle >> >cannot be broken by the justice system if the justice system >> >is itself contaminated with corruption. To ask the courts >> >to rectify the wrong is like asking the fox to find out why >> >the chickens are missing. >> > >> > Keys and others MUST pursue the grand jury objective and >> >have a trial. Regardless of the absurd theater of bleeding >> >hearts who don't want the emotional trauma revisited. We must >> >search and discover what were the full causes of the OKC >> >tragedy. The DOJ KNOWS that proximate cause and responsibility >> >will echo in any such trial and will further discredit the >> >regime in Washington. Such a trial must be avoided. >> > >> > It's going to be an interesting year. >> > >> >Kind Regards, >> > >> >Norm Olson >> > >> > >> > >> >On Sat, 14 Jun 1997, Paul Andrew Mitchell wrote: >> > >> >> Norm, >> >> >> >> Great insights! Here's my take, >> >> to a BBC reporter, infra. >> >> >> >> What's your take on the Oklahoma >> >> state grand jury, convened by >> >> Rep. Charles Key? >> >> >> >> >> >> /s/ Paul Mitchell >> >> http://www.supremelaw.com >> >> >> >> >> >> At 02:54 AM 6/15/97 +0100, you wrote: >> >> >>Dear Clients, >> >> > >> >> >Me too? >> >> >> >> Of course! >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >>I would like to poll all of you on a >> >> >>proposal that has tenaciously stayed >> >> >>in my head for 72 hours and running. >> >> > >> >> >Your concentration span is to be admired. >> >> > >> >> >>On the theory that McVeigh is really >> >> >>working the other side of the fence, >> >> > >> >> >Specifics? >> >> >> >> The theory is that McVeigh is BATF. >> >> The Pentagon expert proved that there >> >> were charges drilled in the bearing >> >> columns. Radiate your research >> >> outwards from that point of origin. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >>I would like to prepare a formal proposal >> >> >>to Oklahoma state Representative Charles >> >> >>Key, as follows: >> >> > >> >> >>Federal jury selection is fatally flawed >> >> >>because of the class discrimination which >> >> >>is evident in 28 U.S.C. 1865. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >You mean they all were for capital punishment or they all came >> >> >from a certain class? You dont have class juries do you? "Selection" >> >> >is a real threat. Please explain "flawed" in this context. >> >> >> >> Visit the Supreme Law Library at URL: >> >> >> >> http://www.supremelaw.com >> >> >> >> and read "Juries in Check around the Nation" >> >> and "State Citizens Cannot Vote." This will >> >> give you the background you need. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >>The flaw exists for selection of federal >> >> >>grand and petit (trial) juries. >> >> >> >> >> >>McVeigh was indicted by such a flawed grand >> >> >>jury, and he was convicted by such a flawed >> >> >>trial jury. Therefore, his conviction is >> >> >>null and void. >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >>The Oklahoma state special grand jury has >> >> >>been approved by the state Supreme Court. >> >> >> >> >> >>The People would intervene in McVeigh's >> >> >>appeal, requesting an indefinite stay of >> >> >>proceedings, pending the outcome of the >> >> >>JSSA challenge now before the 8th Circuit. >> >> > >> >> >You've lost me with jargonism >> >> >> >> "Intervention of Right" is a procedure under >> >> American jurisprudence, allowing a third party >> >> to join the action. In this case, the third >> >> party would be the "People of the United >> >> States of America," the Plaintiffs in the >> >> Billings federal case in which I am the >> >> private attorney general. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >>I would bring the Request for Intervention, >> >> >>as a private attorney general. >> >> > >> >> >For? >> >> >> >> McVeigh was indicted and convicted by federal >> >> juries that were not legal bodies. The People >> >> have a vested interest in fixing the problem >> >> with the Jury Selection and Service Act, >> >> Title 28, United States Code, section 1865, >> >> because it conflicts directly with section 1861. >> >> Think of the first and last years of the American >> >> Civil War, and you will remember the section >> >> numbers. You can view these laws right on >> >> the Internet: use Alta Vista to search for >> >> "United States Code", then go to Title 28, >> >> then sections 1861 and 1865. It's all right >> >> there, in plain English. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >>Along with this stay request, the People >> >> >>would request judicial notice of the >> >> >>state grand jury proceeding in Oklahoma. >> >> >> >> A "stay" is a temporary suspension, or halt, >> >> in the proceedings, until something else is >> >> settled, finally, usually by the U.S. >> >> Supreme Court. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >judicial notice? >> >> >What does that mean? >> >> >> >> If a separate law suit is proceeding, >> >> the court may not know about it, and >> >> would not need to do anything about it anyway, >> >> unless a litigant brings it to the attention >> >> of the court, formally, and asks the court to >> >> do something about the implications of a >> >> decision, one way or the other, in that other >> >> court. >> >> >> >> For example, we have a major challenge to the >> >> Jury Selection and Service Act now before the >> >> 8th Circuit Court of Appeals in St. Louis, >> >> Missouri state. If this case is decided in >> >> favor of the defendant/appellant, then it will >> >> have the side-effect of overturning McVeigh's >> >> indictment and conviction too, because he was >> >> born within one of the several states of the >> >> Union, if I am not mistaken. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >>If the Oklahoma jury selection procedure >> >> >>is similarly flawed, then their state >> >> >>law should be challenged, and corrected, >> >> >>at once, so that they can proceed with their >> >> >>investigation. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >So what are you "looking for" in a jury? >> >> >> >> Impartiality, and a body drawn at random. >> >> Imagine if American juries only selected >> >> women as candidates! That would be an >> >> unconstitutional discrimination based on >> >> "class", a gender-based class. >> >> >> >> >> >> >Why? >> >> >> >> The U.S. Supreme Court has already ruled, >> >> several times, that such class discrimination >> >> causes the jury to be an illegal body. Many of these >> >> cases arose from civil rights cases, in which >> >> some 150 juries in a row were all white, >> >> within a district which had a mixture of >> >> blacks and whites. The blacks were being >> >> discriminated against "as a class." So, >> >> any "class" discrimination, even if not racial, >> >> is still unconstitutional, according to the >> >> U.S. Supreme Court decisions we have located. >> >> >> >> As it turns out, if you are qualified under the >> >> U.S. Constitution to serve in our Congress, >> >> then you are NOT qualified to serve on a >> >> federal grand or petit jury. THAT's how serious >> >> the flaw is. See Article I, Section 2, Clause 2, >> >> and Article I, Section 3, Clause 3. >> >> >> >> "Citizen of the United States" in those provisions >> >> means "Citizen of ONE OF the States United." >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >>Rep. Key would be on the leading edge of >> >> >>this movement, particularly if the Oklahoma >> >> >>state law(s) need amending. >> >> > >> >> >I would support Charles right down the line, >> >> >but Whew.... the timing of this? >> >> >> >> It would take someone with a firm grasp of >> >> American law, both federal and state, to >> >> create some order out of this chaos. The >> >> leading case is U.S.A. v. Gilbertson, which >> >> I wrote. The OPENING BRIEF was mailed on >> >> Wednesday, so it is technically filed, >> >> several days ahead of the deadline. This >> >> means that the 8th Circuit will HAVE to rule >> >> on it. They are only one level below the >> >> U.S. Supreme Court, so the stakes have now >> >> become rather large, to put it mildly. >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >>This would be a wedge into exposing federal >> >> >>manipulation of federal grand juries, >> >> > >> >> >As? Specifics? lotsa questions as to "how"...this would >> >> >expose and the result of such an exposure. >> >> >> >> See "The Kick-Back Racket" in the Supreme Law >> >> Library. U.S. Attorneys are getting rewarded >> >> for obtaining "politically correct" indictments -- >> >> $25,000 to the Attorneys, $35,000 to Clinton. >> >> This violates 41 U.S.C. 51 et seq. -- the >> >> Anti-Kickback Act of 1986; the penalty is stiff >> >> for accepting kick-backs like this. The >> >> Constitution also forbids the President from >> >> accepting any additional emolument during >> >> his term in office; so, we are talking >> >> high treason here, at least. The "authority" >> >> for these "performance rewards" was repealed >> >> in 1993: see the Performance Management and >> >> Recognition System Termination Act of 1993. >> >> >> >> > >> >> > and also >> >> >>federal trial juries as well, a la "The Kick- >> >> >>Back Racket" and other related themes. >> >> > >> >> >Every trial in the US compromised? >> >> >> >> Most federal criminal trials are being >> >> brought in federal courts which have >> >> NO CRIMINAL JURISDICTION whatsoever. >> >> See "Karma and the Federal Courts" >> >> in the Supreme Law Library. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> All high level trials >> >> >never come to court? The ratio? >> >> >> >> DOJ is warring on the American People, >> >> while their employees are entrained in >> >> a massive criminal conspiracy themselves. >> >> Violating any fundamental Rights is a >> >> felony violation of Title 18, United >> >> States Code, Sections 241 and 242. >> >> We are talking "conspiracy" with a >> >> small "c" here! :) >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >Dept of Justice vendetta tactics against the People? >> >> >> >> Yes. I call it an extortion racket. >> >> The "United States" is an organized >> >> criminal extortion racket, and they >> >> are using the courts and juries to >> >> perpetrate this racket. Couple this >> >> with the perjury and property conversion >> >> rackets now rampant within the Department >> >> of Justice, and you have a field day >> >> as a private attorney general. >> >> >> >> >> >> >MOVE? Abu-Jamal? Cabazon? PROMIS? Casolaro? >> >> >> >> Yes, Casolaro broke the Inslaw scan, in which >> >> the Department of Justice stole some very >> >> sophisticated record matching, database, and >> >> bank telecommunications software, and then >> >> bribed a federal judge to block the inevitable >> >> law suit which resulted. Talk to the president >> >> of Inslaw; he can brief you. DOJ is using >> >> a successor to PROMIS to track commercial liens >> >> and other commercial paper through the banking >> >> system; as those records travel through the >> >> Internet, they pick up lots of "leads" to >> >> other assets, e.g. bank accounts, credit >> >> card accounts, etc. Piece-a-cake for a >> >> good computer programmer (I have 26 years in >> >> advanced computer systems development). >> >> >> >> >> >> >Bush? Shackley? Wackenhut? Skull and Bones? >> >> >> >> Yes. The banking syndicate is behind it all -- >> >> Brussels, London, Amsterdam, Hong Kong -- >> >> mostly European families; New York City too, >> >> of course -- International Monetary Fund and >> >> their cohorts. Powerful computers are really >> >> C-H-E-A-P now. I just bought 16 megabytes of >> >> RAM for $100. In 1980, we had to pay $45,000 >> >> for a one megabyte upgrade to a super minicomputer. >> >> That CPU was one million instructions per second. >> >> Now, Digital Equipment is up to 500 million >> >> instructions per second, with their Alpha chip. >> >> That may even be low, because the latest CPU's >> >> are doing more than one instruction per >> >> clock cycle. The alpha is cycling at 500 MHz! >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >>I would like to get your feedback on this >> >> >>proposal. This idea has the potential to >> >> >>thrust jury selection into the limelight, >> >> >>and buy time for the Oklahoma state grand >> >> >>jury to get their act together. >> >> > >> >> >I heard that a jury (may have been possible to provide) its own >> >> >lawyer to the foreman, that would clarify issues? >> >> >> >> Yes. They are called "runaway juries," because >> >> they oust the prosecutor and take over everything >> >> they can get their hands on, including private >> >> counsel. They have that power, under our >> >> Tenth Amendment, because juries predated the >> >> Declaration of Independence; their roots are >> >> in British common law, remember? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >Paul, >> >> >I would like to see an investigation not a trial in oklahoma >> >> >and an appeal to the international community to assist >> >> >tracking down strassmeir and friends and seal'em up once >> >> >and for all. >> >> >> >> Then you must interview Rep. Key, and fill him >> >> in. I will be trying to reach him by telephone >> >> next week. >> >> >> >> Roger, if that OKC federal building had been FILLED >> >> with fertilizer, it still would not have melted >> >> structural steel that way; such an intense >> >> explosion, which blew OUTWARDS, had to have been >> >> detonated inside the building, at the base of >> >> those I-beams; they were decapitated right at >> >> their bases, and then all that weight came crashing >> >> down on top of them. My active hypothesis is that >> >> C-4 was drilled into the I-beams, and then pressure >> >> detonators were affixed to the outsides of the >> >> beams. The fertilizer bomb was the trigger -- >> >> it generated enough pressure to detonate the C-4. >> >> Makes perfect sense. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >Anything that would serve those ends, i would buy. >> >> > >> >> >with my ten cents. >> >> > >> >> >Rr >> >> >> >> Many thanks, Roger. You can help us, because >> >> the American press are bought and sold down the >> >> river. Be careful with this story, because you >> >> may experience real heat yourself. BBC has its >> >> limits, as we both know. Also, watch your back, >> >> and be careful with whom you share this stuff. >> >> This is explosive stuff in more ways than one. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >>I am standing by. Hmmmm Me too......... >> >> > >> >> >Policy Office >> >> >Music Industry Human Rights Association >> >> > >> >> >email mihra@styx.cerbernet.co.uk >> >> > >> >> >Founded in respect of UN50, MIHRA INTERNATIONAL >> >> >represents all areas of music, its industry and its cultural >> >> >and economic activities. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> ======================================================================== >> >> Paul Andrew Mitchell : Counselor at Law, federal witness >> >> B.A., Political Science, UCLA; M.S., Public Administration, U.C. 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