Time: Mon Jun 30 05:32:10 1997 by primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA08637; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 05:30:17 -0700 (MST) by usr02.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA24956; Mon, 30 Jun 1997 05:30:11 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 30 Jun 1997 05:28:29 -0700 To: (Recipient list suppressed) From: Paul Andrew Mitchell [address in tool bar] Subject: SLS: FRCrP Rule 60(b) Just change the pleading to read: Petition in the Nature of Coram Nobis -or- Petition in the Nature of Mandamus Read the All Writs Statute for authority. That solves the problem. /s/ Paul Mitchell http://www.supremelaw.com At 02:09 AM 6/30/97 -0700, you wrote: >I think this is one of the more classic parts to be found. Audita >querela, I am told, is the writ to sue a judge. So check out: > >Rule 60 (b) of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure in pertinent part: > >"Writs of coram nobis, coram vobis, audita querela, and bills of review >and bills in the nature of a bill of review, are abolished, and the >procedure for obtaining relief from judgment shall be by motion as >prescribed in these rules or by an independent action." > >That's what it says right on the first page at the beginning. Now most >lawyers would probably stop looking for these methods after reading >that. But... if you go to the BACK of the Chapter in the Revisions Notes >you find: > >"... With reference to the question whether, as the rules now exist, >relief by coram nobis, bills of review, and so forth, is permissible, the >generally accepted view is that the remedies are still available, >although the precise relief obtained in a particular case by use of these >ancillary remedies is shrouded in ancient lore and mystery. [See Wallace >v. United States, C.C.A.2, 142 F.2d 240]" > >Can you believe that?! "[S]hrouded in ancient lore and mystery", like >some lawyer reading that is going to want to get up in front of a court >and try it expecting any minute for them to start shouting 'Witch!' like >he's trying to do black magic or something! > >Amazing. Like this writ was lost to shrouded history by accident and not >by design. Yeesh! Now we know why you never see it being done..! > >[L.S.] ckerr - Sui Juris, juris et de jure, >Exclusively a Citizen of California Republic, >With Explicit Reservation of All My Rights, Without Prejudice. > >P.S. Notice how they won't even say "audita querela" again in the >revision notes? Out of site out of mind tactics?? Naaah! > >P.S.S. I said in a recent post to you that A.G. was the head of the >executive arm, and relised later my error. Oops. > > ======================================================================== Paul Andrew Mitchell : Counselor at Law, federal witness B.A., Political Science, UCLA; M.S., Public Administration, U.C. Irvine tel: (520) 320-1514: machine; fax: (520) 320-1256: 24-hour/day-night email: [address in tool bar] : using Eudora Pro 3.0.2 on 586 CPU website: http://www.supremelaw.com : visit the Supreme Law Library now ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776 : this is free speech, at its best Tucson, Arizona state : state zone, not the federal zone Postal Zone 85719/tdc : USPS delays first class w/o this As agents of the Most High, we came here to establish justice. We shall not leave, until our mission is accomplished and justice reigns eternal. ======================================================================== [This text formatted on-screen in Courier 11, non-proportional spacing.]
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