Time: Mon Jul 07 21:37:27 1997 by primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA19832; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 21:17:26 -0700 (MST) by usr06.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA03993; Mon, 7 Jul 1997 21:17:14 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 07 Jul 1997 21:17:08 -0700 To: snetnews@world.std.com From: Paul Andrew Mitchell [address in tool bar] Subject: SLS: 2 classes of citizens: evidence in California (1849) References: <3.0.3.16.19970707194512.31cf7002@pop.primenet.com> See my comments infra: /s/ Paul Mitchell http://www.supremelaw.com At 11:34 PM 7/7/97 -0700, you wrote: > >-> SearchNet's SNETNEWS Mailing List > >Paul Andrew Mitchell wrote: >(snip) >> Sec. 5. Every citizen of California, declared a >> legal voter by this Constitution, and every >> citizen of the United States, a resident of this >> state on the day of election, shall be entitled >> to vote at the first general election under this >> Constitution, and on the question of the adoption >> thereof. >> [end excerpt] >> >> At first glance, this section appears to refer to >> two (2) separate classes of citizens: citizens of >> California, and citizens of the United States. >> >> However, having reviewed People v. De La Guerra, >> we now understand that, prior to the Civil War and >> its ugly aftermath, the term "Citizen of the United >> States", as that term is used in the Qualifications >> Clauses, means "Citizen of ONE OF the States united." > >That's great, but what exactly is a "citizen"? Is that >someone born in a state? free? white? other? Can one >be born in a state but not be a citizen? Being, perhaps, >an inhabitant? Born or naturalized. These are the two most common ways. There is another way, which is to choose the Citizenship of your parents, even though you were born overseas. > >Why did they have to say one must be a citizen of either >California or one of the several states AND resident in >California? Why not just resident? My construction is this: They are allowing California citizens to vote by absentee ballot, when they are temporarily "resident" in another Union state. Your "domicile" is permanent, even though you might exercise your Right to sojourn (i.e. "travel"). > >I'm asking because of language used in the Northwest Ordinance, >where it uses the terms "inhabitant", "person", "citizen", and >"elector". These terms are obviously used to distinguish; >thus my question. The Northwest Ordinance is a great example to use when constructing these clauses, because it contains the actual language which Judge De La Guerra utilized, to wit: "... Provided, That no person be eligible or qualified to act as a representative, unless he shall have been a citizen of one of the [ONE OF!!!!!] United States three years, and be a resident in the district, or unless he shall have resided in the district three years; ...." These are the qualifications for eligibility to serve as a "representative" in the general assembly for the Northwest Territory. Author John S. Wise goes on to say: "This is doubtless the intent of the convention which framed the Constitution, for it cannot have meant anything else." This Northwest Ordinance has always been regarded as a model of excellent legislation. Wise explains that, if the Qualifications Clauses had been literally obeyed, there could have been no elections for Representatives to Congress for at least seven years after the adoption of the Constitution, and no one would have been eligible as a Senator for nine years after its adoption. Reductio ad absurdum. /s/ Paul Mitchell http://www.supremelaw.com > >Walter > > >-> Send "subscribe snetnews " to majordomo@world.std.com >-> Posted by: Walter Kenaston <kenaston@digital.net> > > > ======================================================================== Paul Andrew Mitchell : Counselor at Law, federal witness B.A., Political Science, UCLA; M.S., Public Administration, U.C. Irvine tel: (520) 320-1514: machine; fax: (520) 320-1256: 24-hour/day-night email: [address in tool bar] : using Eudora Pro 3.0.3 on 586 CPU website: http://www.supremelaw.com : visit the Supreme Law Library now ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776 : this is free speech, at its best Tucson, Arizona state : state zone, not the federal zone Postal Zone 85719/tdc : USPS delays first class w/o this As agents of the Most High, we came here to establish justice. We shall not leave, until our mission is accomplished and justice reigns eternal. ======================================================================== [This text formatted on-screen in Courier 11, non-proportional spacing.]
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