Time: Thu Jul 24 06:21:15 1997 by primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id GAA15197 for [address in tool bar]; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 06:18:56 -0700 (MST) by usr09.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA08797; Thu, 24 Jul 1997 06:15:50 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 24 Jul 1997 06:15:19 -0700 To: (Recipient list suppressed) From: Paul Andrew Mitchell [address in tool bar] Subject: SLS: Holocost survivor interview (fwd) <snip> > >> HOLOCAUST SURVIVOR DENOUNCES ANTI-GUN >> OWNERSHIP MOVEMENT >> >> >> Unlike many interviews with Holocaust survivors, this >> one conducted by Aaron Zelman, founder, Jews for the >> Preservation of Firearms Ownership (2872 S. Wentworth >> Ave., Milwaukee, WI 53207; 414-769-0760; membership $20) >> with Theodore Haas, a JPFO member and a former prisoner >> of the infamous Dachau concentration camp, is a clear >> warning to all freedom-loving peoples to keep our guard >> up against arrogant politicians who are hell bent to >> create governments that control our lives. In pre-Nazi >> Germany, the good, law-abiding citizens dozed while >> government passed laws (all purported to be for the >> public good) that paved the way for tyrrany to flourish. >> Haas, who survived years of Nazi persecutors, is speaking >> out to Americans who are now dozing while our government, >> at the strong urging of leftists in the media and others >> in society they influence, passes laws (again supposidly >> for the public good) to ban and severely restrict firearms >> ownership. Theodore Haas believes gun control is a prelude >> to totalitarian rule - The editors. >> >> ******* >> >>Q.) How did you end up at Dachau? How old were you? >> >>A.) November 9th, 1938 was Kristalnacht - The Night of Broken >>Glass - The night Synagogues were ransacked and burned, Jewish >>owned shops destroyed; I guess you could call it the night the >>fires of hell engulfed the soul of humanity. >> I was arrested November 10th, "for my own personal security." >>I was 21 years old. My parents were arrested and ultimately >>died in a concentration camp in France. I was released from >>Dachau in 1941, under the condition that I leave Germany >>immediately. This was common procedure before the "Final >>Solution." >> >>Q.) What did you think when you were sent to Dachau? What >>did you know about Dachau beforehand? >> >>A.) My first thoughts were those many others: "The world >>has gone mad." >> I knew that the life expectancy at Dachau was relatively >>short. I knew beforehand that inmates were abused. The horror >>of Dachau was known throughout Germany. People (Germans) >>use to frighten their childern, "If you do not behave, you >>will surely end up at Dachau." A famous German comedian, >>Weiss Ferdl, said "Regardless how many machine gun towers >>they have around K.Z. Dachau, if I want to get in, I shall >>get in." The Nazis obliged him; he died at Dachau. >> >>Q.) How did you accept the fears of Dachau? >> >>A.) Due to the constant hunger and extreme cold weather, >>one becomes too numb to even think of fear. A prisoner >>under these conditions becomes obsessed with survival; >>nothing else matters. >> >>Q.) What were the living conditions like in Dachau? >> >>A.) We were issued one-quarter of a loaf of bread. That was >>to last three days. In the morning, we picked up, at the >>kitchen, a cup of roasted barley drink. There was no lunch. >>At dinnertime, sometimes we got a watery soup with bits of >>tripe or some salt herring and a boiled potato. >> Our prison clothes were a heavy, coarse denim. They would >>freeze when they got wet. We were not issued hats, gloves or >>underware. >> The first night, about 500 prisoners were stuffed into a >>room designed to hold 50 (Believe me, it is possible). >>Later on, we were forced to sleep on straw. As time went on, >>the straw disintegrated and we became louse infested. The >>guards delighted in making weak and ill-clothed prisoners >>march or stand at attention in rain, snow, and ice for hours. >>As you can imagine, death came often due to the conditions. >> >>Q.) Do you have residual fears? How do you feel about German >>re-unification? >> >>A.) I have nightmares constantly. I recently dreamed that a >>guard grabbed me. My wife's arm touched my face, and I >>unfortunately bit her severely. >> German re-unification, in my opinion, will be the basis >>for another war. The Germans, regardless of what their >>present leadership says, will want their lost territories >>back, East Prussia, Silesia, and Danzic (Gdansk). My family >>history goes back over 700 years in Germany. I understand >>all too well what the politicians do not want the people >>to be thinking about. >> >>Q.) You mentioned you were shot and stabbed several times. >>Were these experements, punishment or torture? >> >>A.) They were punishment. I very often, in a fit of temper, >>acted "while the brain was not in gear." The sorry results >>were two 9 mm bullets in my knees. Fortunately, one of the >>prisoners had a fingernail file and was able to dig the >>slugs out. In another situation, I was stabbed in the >>washroom of room #1, Block 16. Twice in a struggle where >>I nearly lost my right thumb. A German prisoner Hans Wissing, >>who after the war became mayor of his home town, Leinsweiler, >>witnessed the whole situation. We stayed in touch until a >>few months ago, when he died. >> >>Q.) Do you remember some of the steps taken by the Nazis to >>de-humanize people and to make them feel hopeless? How were >>people robbed of their dignity? >> >>A.) If you had treated an animal in Germany the way we were >>treated, you would have been jailed. For example, a guard >>or a group of them would single out a prisoner and beat him >>with canes or a club. Sometimes to further terrorize a >>prisoner, the guards would form a circle around a prisoner >>and beat him unconscious. There were cases of a prisoner >>being told to report to the Revier ("Hospital") and being >>forced to drink a quart of castor oil. Believe me, this is >>a lousy, painfull, wretched way to die. You develop extreme >>diarrhea, vomiting, nausea, and severe dehydration. If the >>Nazis wanted you to live and suffer more, they would take >>measures to rehydrate to victim. >> >>Q.) What was the routine like at Dachau? >> >>A.) Three times a day, we were counted. We had to carry the >>dead to the square. Each time, we had to stand at attention >>in all kinds of weather. We stood wearing next to nothing, >>had weak bladders, while our tormentors had sheepskin coats >>and felt boots. The bastards really enjoyed watching us >>suffer. I remember how the guards had a good laugh when >>one of them "accidentally" let loose with a machine gun, >>killing about 30 prisoners. >> >>Q.) What did people do to try to adjust to Dachau? Keep >>their spirits up? >> >>A.) There were some actors, comedians, and musicians among >>us. Sometimes they would clandestinely perform. One of the >>muscians got hold of a violin and played for us. To this >>day, it remains a mystery how he got his hands on a violin. >>I still keep in touch with other prisoners. I am a member of >>the Dachau Prisoners Association. Each year I go back to >>Germany to visit. >> >>Q.) Did people ever successfully escape? Do you remember >>acts of bravery? >> >>A.) Nobody escaped, only in the movies does the "hero" escape. >>Guards received extra leave time for killing prisoners that >>got too close to the fence. >> I do, however, think all prisoners were heroes in their own >>way. Especially the German prisoners, for they would not >>acquiesce to the Nazis. They suffered greatly too. >> >>********************************************************** >>Q.) Did the camp inmates ever bring up the topic, "If only >>we were armed before, we would not be here now"? >>********************************************************** >> >>A.) Many, many times. Before Adolph Hitler came to power, there >>was a black market in firearms, but the German people had been >>so conditioned to be law abiding, that they would never consider >>buying an unregistered gun. The German people really believed >>that only hoodlums own such guns. What fools we were. It truly >>frightens me to see how the government, media, and some >>police groups in America are pushing for the same mindset. >>In my opinion, the people of America had better start asking >>and demanding answers to some hard questions about firearms >>ownership, especially if the government does not trust me to >>own firearms, why or how can the people be expected to trust >>the government? >> There is no doubt in my mind that millions of lives could >>have been saved if the people were not "brainwashed" about >>gun ownership and had been well armed. Hitler's thugs and >>goons were not very brave when confronted by a gun. Gun >>haters always want to forget the Warsaw Ghetto uprising, >>which is a perfect example of how a ragtag, half-starved >>group of Jews took up 10 handguns and made as**s out of >>the Nazis. >> >>Q.) Did you have any contacts with the White Rose Society >>(mostly German students against Hitler)? Did anyone try >>to hide you from the Nazis? >> >>A.) I did not, but my local friend, Richard Scholl, had two >>cousins or nephews who were members. Both were executed in >>Munich (I believe) for standing up for decency and freedom. >>Not enough people knew about the White Rose Society. There >>were many non-Jews who were not anti-Semitic and were very >>much opposed to Hitler. >> It was impossible to hide people from the Nazis in >>Germany - it is so densely populated and food was rationed. >>Another point that many people fail to understand is that >>in Germany, you had a situation where the children were >>reporting to their teachers if their parents listened to >>the BBC on the short wave radio, or what they were >>talking about at home. If a German was friendly to a Jew, >>he was warned once. If he failed to heed the warning, he >>would disappear and never be heard from again. This was >>known as "Operation Night and Fog." >> >>Q.) Do you think Anerican society has enough stability that >>Jews and other minorities are safe from severe persecution? >> >>A.) No. I think there is more anti-Semitism in America (some >>of it caused by leftist Jewish politicians and organizations >>who promote gun control schemes) than there was in Germany. >>This may stun some people, but not all Germans hated Jews. >>My best and devoted friends in Germany were Christians. >> I perceive America as a very unstable society, due to social >>tinkering of the Kennedy/Metzenbaum-type politicians. When >>I first came to this wonderfull country after World War II, >>America was vibrant, dynamic and promising society. There >>really was an American dream, attainable by those who wanted >>to work. Now, due to the curse of Liberalism, America is >>in a period of moral decline. Even worse, corrupt criminals >>hold high political office, and you have police officials >>who don't give a damn about the Bill of Rights. They just >>want to control people, not protect and serve. When you >>study history, you see that when a country becomes an >>immoral manure heap, as America is rapidly becoming, all >>minorities suffer, and ultimately, all the citizens. >> >>Q.) What words of warning would you like to give to young >>people who will soon be eligible to vote? >> >>A.) Vote only for politicians who trust the people to own all >>types of firearms, and who have a strong pro-Second Ammendment >>voting record. Anti-gunownership politicians are very dangerous >>to a free society. Liberty and freedom can only be preserved >>by an armed citizenry. I see creeping fascism in America, >>just as in Germany, a drip at a time; a law here, a law there, >>all suposidly passed to protect the public. Soon you have total >>enslavement. Too many Americans have forgotten that tyranny >>often masquerades as doing good. This is the technique the >>Liberal politicians/Liberal media alliance are using to >>enslave America. >> >>Q.) What message do you have for ultra-Liberal organizations >>and individuals who want America disarmed? >> >>A.) Their ignorance is pitiful - their lives have been too >>easy. Had they experienced Dachau, they would have a better >>idea of how precious freedom is. These leftist should leave >>America. These Sarah Brady types must be educated to under- >>stand that because we have an armed citizenry, that a >>dictatorship has not yet happened in America. These anti- >>gun fools are more dangerous to Liberty than street >>criminals or foreign spies. >> >>Q.) Some concentration camp survivors are opposed to gun >>ownership. What message would you like to share with them? >> >>A.) I would like to say, "You cowards; you gun haters, you >>don't deserve to live in America. Go live in the Soviet >>Union, if you love gun control so d--- much." It was the >>stupidity of these naive fools that aided and abetted >>Hitler's goons and thugs. Anti-gunownership Holocaust >>survivors insult the memories of all those that needlessly >>perished for lack of being able to adequately defend >>themselves. >> >>Q.) It appears the Liberal left in America is tolerating, >>and sometimes espousing anti-Semitism. Why do you think so >>many Jews still support the leftist form of Liberalism? >> >>A.) It is for this very reason that I firmly believe that we >>harbor more stupid and naive people in our midst, than any >>other group of people. It amazes me how Liberal Jews have >>such short memories that today, they would be so supportive >>and involved in setting up the mechanics of gun control, so >>that a Holocaust can happen again. All they're doing is >>playing into the hands of the very clever communists who >>are masters at conning Americans. >> >>Q.) Why did you join JPFO? >> >>A.) I feel every Jew should be armed to the teeth, as should >>every American. I joined JPFO because as a group, we can stand >>up tp Liberal Jewish gun haters and also to Gestapo-minded >>anti-gun police who want total control of the people. I wish >>JPFO was in existance years ago. I believe the Jewish >>involvement in gun control would not be anywhere close to >>what it is today, but better now than never. >> >> >> >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >>From Robert in Springfield-Missouri. >Freedom now days is a state of mind. > >Has anyone mentioned a soon-to-be maximum leader that will >soon descend on us or will that be briefly announced in the >A-section of some future Sunday morning paper? > >Just another day in paradise or is the "paradise" >quickly disappearing or has disappeared >and a many people haven't figured it out yet? > >Be watchful for the federal thought police and >their evil associates--who may, someday, >be coming soon your city, town, village or farm. > >Mail me with BCC: please, thank you. >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > > ======================================================================== Paul Andrew Mitchell : Counselor at Law, federal witness B.A., Political Science, UCLA; M.S., Public Administration, U.C. 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