Time: Mon Jul 28 12:15:40 1997 by primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id LAA21972; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 11:26:48 -0700 (MST) by usr07.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA28646; Mon, 28 Jul 1997 11:21:53 -0700 (MST) Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 11:21:13 -0700 To: (Recipient list suppressed) From: Paul Andrew Mitchell [address in tool bar] Subject: SLS: Rep. Paul on U.N. and our military (fwd) <snip> > >Bernadine [last name not known] of the Second Amendment Committee called the talk program on TruthRadio (Delano, CA) between 10:30 and 11:00 p.m. EDT, Sunday, July 27, 1997, asking everyone to contact Rep. Ron Paul to urge him to go public with the facts about our grave national situation, especially regarding the UN and our military. The following is a transcript of what she said, and what she stated Rep. Paul's representative has told her. > > >BERNADINE: This is Bernadine. I wanted to thank you for giving some publicity to what we're trying to do in waking the people up. > >SHOW HOST: Well, you're welcome. > >BERNADINE: It was real good of you to try to get that on the air. I'd like to say a little bit more about it, if it's okay. > >SHOW HOST: Go for it. > >BERNADINE: Well, you know, the nation in general - people in general do not know what's going on, and the news are keeping it from being published. The television will not publish the information. Any time a nation gives up its armed forces to its enemies, they're in for trouble. Those are the kind of people in Washington these days. And when it is completed - they're working towards it, and they're pretty close to finishing, and, you know, people like you and me, we can go out and talk to people and say, "Are you aware that we're not going to have a military, we're going to have no military here? We're going to be open for any kind of conquest, any kind of invasion. And what's worse, they're bringing in communists, setting up little communities, and our people are being disarmed. They're legislating the 2nd Amendment out of existence. There's going to be no one have a gun in this country and you're going to be subjected to the control of a military type government, that t >he UN is calling for all countries to give up their armies and our country has gone along with it. And we're going to be under the jurisdiction of a communist world army, because they're taking all of the armies. They're going to be the only army in the world and the rest of the countries are going to have to convert to full communism. And that means, of course, that you're not going to be able to own land. You're not going to be able to vote. You're not going to be able to have anything to say about whatever our government does because we're not going to have freedom to speak. > >(Brief interruption in Internet transmission) > >and yet those are the facts. And, unfortunately, we don't have the credibility because it isn't coming out on the television. They believe everything that's put on television, even though it's the biggest propaganda media that has ever been in this country since we've had the printed word. And yet they will believe - they would believe it if it were on the television. But since it's not on the television, they don't believe it. So, this is the bind we're in and we're coming down to the final effort of what we can do. You know, we've been fighting for a long time, and we're coming down to the line now where it's - it's no longer going to be in our control. We're going to lose if we don't do something and do it pretty quick. > >So, when Ron Paul came out with this effort to get us out of the UN, we saw a golden opportunity that we could lock his opposition, which was pretty - a pretty good size opposition. There were 369 that voted against him and only 54 in support. And of those 54 that supported him, 11 were phonies, and I'm not so sure about the rest, because when I talked to his representative - Ron Paul's representative, he said -- "Well, how come, you know, someone else doesn't speak out that - of his supporters?" And he said - he said, "Of all the people that voted for him," he said, "and there's some of them that are co-sponsors on the bill," he said, "not one of them would dare stand up and speak." > >And so what we're trying to make happen, we're trying to force an opening into this awful - what you might call a Pandora's box, so that the people can see that we've been betrayed, and it's going to get tremendously worse - much, much more worse than they've ever seen it. And they have a right to know. This government, you know, belongs to the people and what's being done is done without their knowledge. And the Declaration of Independence has the words in there "consent of the governed." They're not supposed to do these kind of things without the consent of the governed. The governed's never been asked. So, feeling that the people do have a right to know, and feeling that we have people that we're paying salaries to - they call themselves conservatives. They're in the minority in our statehouses and in the minority on the federal level. However, they're still taking a salary and they still want to be professing that they're doing the things that are good for us. So, we >feel that they have an obligation to tell what's gone on when they've got the facts, and not sit there and just object to this bill and push a button that says "yea" or "nay" in the aisles they sit in such as the state assembly and the Senate and the federal House of Representatives. Yea and nay is not going to get us anywhere. We've got to do something else, because you can see we're going down the tube, and they know it. And so just sitting there - some of them are just pushing the button that makes it look like they're doing the right thing just to hang in there on their job. That's all. They're there for the money and the glory and all the fringe benefits. But if we're paying them the salaries and they're good sized salaries, they have an obligation to really serve - really serve. And that means that they should be getting this information out about the disarmament and the damage it's doing to us, and that's not - that's not something that's too much to ask. > >So, that's why we're pushing on this opportunity - golden opportunity, and we just want the people all over the country to have the knowledge of what direction they're being taken in, and it's a bad direction. And if they want to save themselves, they first have to have the knowledge, and so that's why we're trying to get Ron Paul to go a step further than what he went. > >Now, by putting the bill out to get out of the United Nations was a good move. Of course, they're destroying us by treaties. Ron Paul's representative that I talked to said that Ron Paul felt that the - there were several other like - I think he said seven - there were seven other things that were just as bad as the disarmament law. Well, taking - losing the guns is the worst thing that can happen to you. And if you don't have the guns, you can't save yourself in any field, whether it's the land grab or whatever. He's told me also that Ron Paul was very worried about the collapse of the government. Well, my opinion is that they will not collapse the government until after they get the guns. I think they would be afraid to do it if the people still had the guns, because there's too many people out there that know they're planning a collapse, and they know that there would be a bounce back if they did it while people still have guns. So keeping the guns is the primary thing >that's got to be done. > >Anyway, I asked - you know, I asked for Ron Paul to expose these people and that they should be declared unqualified for voting because they're already guilty of treason. Anytime you turn your army over to the enemies of a nation, that's treason. And that they should be disqualified, everyone that voted to do that. And we furnished him the documentation of - all the people that voted against him, we furnished the documentation of how those same people voted to give away the armed forces in 1989 with Public Law 101-216, and to disarm us completely. So he's got - he's got solid information on who they are in the Congress. And in talking to his representative - now he was very candid with me. He said that Ron Paul does not intend to confront his colleagues, that he's not going to go that far, that he feels that in introducing that legislation that the people can draw their own conclusions. > >Well, how can they draw their own conclusions when it isn't published, when it isn't even put on the news of what - what the issue is? And so I feel that if we persuade and we push Ron Paul a little bit farther with enough of an outcry throughout the nation, that it is possible then for him to have the courage. Somebody was telling me that they saw him on a program not too long ago and they - when they started to asking political questions, this man that was watching the program told me - these are his words, not mine. I didn't see the program. But they said that Ron Paul appeared to be scared when they talked about some of the political things, like he was worried, you know, and - and afraid. And still, heroes are made, they're not born. They have to go through a self-stimulating effort to do what has to be done. George Washington had to do what he did. He didn't intend to be a big hero, but it was forced on him. And so, if we get enough calls, it could change Ron Paul. > So that's why I'm asking people to do that and to call and ask him to bring this out. There's ways. He has credibility. Now if he told what I told you at the start of this program, if he went on a program and he told all this stuff and it was on the news and it came through the television at 5 o'clock, dinnertime, or 6 o'clock or 7 o'clock, people would believe it, simply because he has credibility by being in office. And because it's so horrible, when they hear it from average people that are not in public office, they choose to defend their own security and to defend the public officials who are doing them in by saying, "It won't happen here. It could never happen here." Well, it's happened. It's happened since 1961. And I - you know, I'd like to see him use some of the things and ways that he could have to break into the news and - and talk on this so that it's known throughout the nation. > >SHOW HOST: Bernadine, to wrap it up, what can the listeners do? > >BERNADINE: Okay. > >SHOW HOST: What kind of action can they take? > >BERNADINE: Want to take these phone numbers down? > >SHOW HOST: Okay. > >BERNADINE: Okay. 202 - this is his phone, for Ron Paul. 202-225-2831. Repeating, 202-225-2831. > >SHOW HOST: And what should we say when we call that number? > >BERNADINE: Well, I'll give you the fax number first, and then tell you what, generally, you can say. The fax is 202-226-4871. 202-226-4871. And what they should - what they should say is "Urging you to get out publicly and expose the facts on the disarmament law and the real reasons to get out of the UN." > >SHOW HOST: Okay, Bernadine. You have this thing called the Golden Opportunity to Save Your Country, and they can get a packet by sending you a $3 money order? > >BERNADINE: Yeah. Two dollars is okay, too. If they would like to send us a large envelope, one of the big brown ones that are about 10 X 12, and we fill it up. It'll take at least their $2. I go the cost of the material inside, and if they just pay $2, that'll cover their postage - and [send] the envelope, you know. So if they want to write to us at Post Office Box 1776, they'll get all the documentation. There's some very important items in there and - > >SHOW HOST: Yeah, I just scanned through this packet and it's full of a lot of neat stuff. > >BERNADINE: It's good stuff. > >SHOW HOST: That's to be sent to the Second Amendment Committee, P.O. Box 1776 -- > >BERNADINE: 1776. > >SHOW HOST: Hanford, California 93232. > >BERNADINE: Uh-huh. > >SHOW HOST: And, like I said, I just scanned through a lot of this. It has the voting records of legislators in favor of giving the military to the UN and the voting records of those that were in favor of our getting out of the UN and it's got a lot of neat information. And, of course, it tells you where to go look in the law library to get some of this stuff that goes all the way back to the 1950s. > >BERNADINE: It's all in -- you know, in the package. If they write for - they can just write for OGL - Opportunity - Golden Opportunity - you know, Operation Golden Opportunity. Just put "OGL" and $2 in an envelope and they'll get a packet. > >SHOW HOST: Fantastic. > >BERNADINE: Okay. Thank you. > >SHOW HOST: Thanks for calling. > >BERNADINE: Uh-huh. Bye now. > >SHOW HOST: And God bless Bernadine, a real warrior for our country. > >[end] > >------------------------------ > >Okay. It's up to us. Please call and fax Ron Paul, and get everyone you know calling as well. > >In case you didn't get all the information above, send a large (8 X 12) self-addressed envelope with at least $2 (or more if you can afford it) inside another envelope addressed to Second Amendment Committee, P.O. Box 1776, Hanford, CA 93232, and mark the envelope "OGL" so they'll know what you want. > >Rep. Ron Paul's phone: 202-225-2831 > Fax: 202-226-4871 > Toll free Capitol Hill #: 800-522-6721 > E-mail: rep.paul@mail.house.gov > >You can also write Devvy Kidd, Project on Winning Economic Reform, 14253 West Baltic Avenue, Lakewood, CO 80228. For $2 she will send you a 22-page document, outlining recall procedures through petition drives. 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