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Date: Tue, 29 Jul 1997 20:05:11 -0700
To: ignition-point@majordomo.pobox.com
From: Paul Andrew Mitchell [address in tool bar]
Subject: SLS: FRCP Rule 38: jury trial preserved inviolate
See Rule 38, Federal Rules of Civil Procedure.
Jury trials are preserved inviolate, in all
civil cases. However, the U.S. Supreme Court
is empowered to make such rules only for the
United States District Courts; 28 U.S.C. 2072
does not empower the U.S. Supreme Court to
make such rules for the District Court of the
United States. For background, read "Karma
and the Federal Courts" in the Supreme Law
Library at the URL just below my name here:
Sincerely,
/s/ Paul Mitchell
http://www.supremelaw.com
At 08:25 PM 7/29/97 +0000, you wrote:
>However, you failed to mention one
>important fact.
>
>The 7th Amendment right to a jury
>is inaccessible in most civil matters except
>in a court of common law.
>
>Check it out. Particularly in Equity
>Courts, no one has constitutional rights.
>Most people do not know this.
>
>This is how the courts have screwed
>the people -- by separating them from
>the jury.
>
>If you'd like details of a specific case,
>e-mail me privately and I'll give you
>the details of how and why I discovered
>this nasty fact.
>
>Kathie
>
>> U.S. v. Gaudin held in 1995 that juries
>> are empowered to determine relevance,
>> not the judge. Juries retain their common
>> law powers under the Tenth Amendment, because
>> they are institutions which pre-date the
>> ratification of the U.S. Constitution.
>> They had to exist prior to its ratification,
>> because they are mentioned in the Sixth and
>> Seventh Amendments.
>>
>>
>> /s/ Paul Mitchell
>> http://www.supremelaw.com
>>
>>
>>
>> At 06:24 PM 7/29/97 GMT, you wrote:
>> >********************************************
>> >>
>> >> White Supremacist Takes the Fifth
>> >>
>> >> 97-07-16 23:54:20 EDT
>> >> The Associated Press
>> >>
>> >> By PAUL QUEARY
>> >> OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) - A white supremacist said he took the Fifth
>> >> Amendment when questioned Wednesday by a grand jury investigating
>> >> claims of a larger conspiracy in the Oklahoma City bombing.
>> >> Dennis Mahon, of Tulsa, who operates a Dial-a-Racist hot line
>> >> and is a member of the White Aryan Resistance, has denied
>> >> involvement in the bombing.
>> >> But he said he refused to answer at least some questions unless
>> >> granted immunity from prosecution, and was issued a new subpoena
>> >> requiring him to appear before the panel on Aug. 15.
>> >> ``It is my greatest desire to answer all their questions, even
>> >> if it takes days,'' Mahon said in a telephone interview several
>> >> hours after his appearance.
>> >> Mahon's ex-girlfriend, former federal informant Carol Howe, told
>> >> authorities after the bombing that she had overheard Mahon and
>> >> German national Andreas Strassmeir discuss bombing federal
>> >> buildings in the months before the attack. Mahon dismisses Ms. Howe
>> >> as a pathological liar and a drug abuser.
>> >> Attorneys for Timothy McVeigh, who was convicted and sentenced
>> >> to death for the bombing, tried to call Ms. Howe as a witness
>> >> during his trial, but the judge ruled her testimony irrelevant.
>> >>
>>
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>> >
>> >What a GEORGEOUS EXAMPLE! A TEXTBOOK CASE
>> >of PURE PRPPAGANDA!
>> >
>> >
>> >Observe: the article states:
>> >
>> >> Mahon dismisses Ms. Howe
>> >> as a pathological liar and a drug abuser.
>> >
>> >and continues
>> >
>> >
>> >> Attorneys for Timothy McVeigh, who was convicted and sentenced
>> >> to death for the bombing, tried to call Ms. Howe as a witness
>> >> during his trial, **** but the judge ruled her testimony
irrelevant. ***
>> >
>> >---------------------------------------
>> >
>> >What MUST BE ASKED: WHY DO WE ACCECPT SUCH TRIPE?
>> >
>> >this
>> >> Mahon dismisses Ms. Howe
>> >> as a pathological liar and a drug abuser.
>> >is a simple *ad hominum* : Mahon has to SHOW this.
>> >
>> >If she was a pathological liar and drug abuser WHY did the FBI
>> >put her on as an informant? This does not scour, as Abe Lincoln
>> >would've said.
>> >
>> >WHY don't people ask Mahon: "YEAH? WHAT MAKES YOU THINK THAT?"
>> >
>> >
>> >this
>> >> Attorneys for Timothy McVeigh, who was convicted and sentenced
>> >> to death for the bombing, tried to call Ms. Howe as a witness
>> >> during his trial, **** but the judge ruled her testimony
irrelevant. ***
>> >is obstruction of justice, and as done BY a JUDGE is MALFEASANCE.
>> >The JURY decides; not the judge, and We the People have a RIGHT
>> >to HEAR what is SAID.
>> >
>> > "It is error alone which requires the protection
>> > of government. The truth can stand by itself."
>> >
>> > (Thomas Jefferson).
>> >
>> > End
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
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Paul Andrew Mitchell : Counselor at Law, federal witness
B.A., Political Science, UCLA; M.S., Public Administration, U.C. Irvine
tel: (520) 320-1514: machine; fax: (520) 320-1256: 24-hour/day-night
email: [address in tool bar] : using Eudora Pro 3.0.3 on 586 CPU
website: http://www.supremelaw.com : visit the Supreme Law Library now
ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776 : this is free speech, at its best
Tucson, Arizona state : state zone, not the federal zone
Postal Zone 85719/tdc : USPS delays first class w/o this
As agents of the Most High, we came here to establish justice. We shall
not leave, until our mission is accomplished and justice reigns eternal.
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