Time: Wed Aug 06 14:18:16 1997 by primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA14337; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 14:18:38 -0700 (MST) by usr10.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA28324; Wed, 6 Aug 1997 14:15:30 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 06 Aug 1997 14:14:29 -0700 To: sew@valint.net From: Paul Andrew Mitchell [address in tool bar] Subject: SLS: Where are Janet Reno's credentials? (fwd) References: <3.0.3.16.19970805191502.3f9fcf32@pop.primenet.com> <33D90868.4015D3E0@prodigy.net> <33D90868.4015D3E0@prodigy.net> <3.0.3.16.19970805191502.3f9fcf32@pop.primenet.com> It's a constitutional requirement, and a failure to take the oath is grounds for ouster by Quo Warranto proceedings. /s/ Paul Mitchell http://www.supremelaw.com At 01:06 PM 8/6/97 -0700, you wrote: >I didn't know FOIA could be used to get certified documents. It >doesn't say that in the act, that I can see. > >Steve Washam > >Tue, 05 Aug 1997 19:15:02 -0700 >Paul Andrew Mitchell [address in tool bar] wrote: >>Paul Mitchell's comments infra: >> >> >>At 10:21 PM 8/2/97 -0700, you wrote: >>>Fri, 25 Jul 1997 15:11:21 -0500 >>> Brooks Martin <haze11@PRODIGY.NET> wrote: >>> >>>>Some of you may find this interesting. Those of you who have spoken to >>>>Mr. Mitchell know he is _very_ passionate about his beliefs. I took >>>>the >>>>time to verify some of this story myself. Especially the part about >>>>redirecting the FOIA request for Janet Reno's credentials etc. from the >>>>Dept. of Justice to the PUBLIC LIBRARY(?) This is true folks, if you >>>>submit a FOIA request to the Dept. of Justice for a copy of Janet Reno's >>>>sworn oath of office and her other credentials you will be refered to >>>>the >>>>Public Library. Don't ask why. I don't have that info yet. >>> >>>Here's my guess. >>> >>>The FOIA officer is _interpreting_ the Mitchell's request to be >>>a request for the _text_ of the oath, rather than a copy of the >>>Reno's executed oath. That information will be found in the US >>>Code, available in the public library. >> >> >>Not true. We have received many copies of >>executed Appointment Affidavits from the >>Department of Justice. We have found all >>of them to be unacceptable, because our >>FOIA requests specifically required >>_certified_ copies of said Affidavits. >> >>DOJ now refuses to certify these crucial >>documents. Therefore, the photocopies >>which they do send out, are not admissible >>and, for this reason, are essentially worthless. >> >>The end result is being litigated right now, >>as I write this, before the 8th Circuit, >>because a failure to produce evidence of a >>proper oath of office is grounds for ouster >>by Quo Warranto. The 8th Circuit now >>knows this, because we have told them so. >> >>/s/ Paul Mitchell >>http://www.supremelaw.com >> >> >> >>> >>>Because _part_ of the information is available elsewhere under >>>this _interpetation_, they are using it as a slimy excuse to can >>>the entire request. >>> >>>Just a guess, which is not as interesting as some thoeries. >> >>Nice guess, but we are way beyond "guessing" >>at this stage of the game. >> >>One of the main reasons why I believe they >>are now stalling in the face of these >>FOIA requests for credentials, is that >>we took the next step in the Grand Jury >>case in Arizona last year. Once an >>Appointment Affidavit is entered into >>evidence, using Rule 201(d) of the >>Federal Rules of Evidence, for example, >>the Constitution and its exact provisions >>become a matter of evidence, and of equity. >> >>I have made no secret of my intentions to >>sue out the exact provisions of the >>Constitution which is mentioned in the >>language of 5 U.S.C. 3331, which language >>is repeated on these Appointment Affidavits. >>Here is the question we plan to put to a >>competent and qualified jury, for example: >> >>"Do the facts support a legal conclusion >> that the 16th amendment was not lawfully >> ratified?" >> >>A jury can be convened to issue declaratory >>relief on this subject, but the jury should >>be one convened under state law, because >>28 U.S.C. 2201 has a bar against declaratory >>judgments, when the subject matter is federal >>income taxes. The state courts have original >>jurisdiction, pursuant to the explicit Reservations >>which Congress attached to the two human Rights >>treaties now on the books. Treaties are supreme >>Law, pursuant to the Supremacy Clause. >> >>/s/ Paul Mitchell >>http://www.supremelaw.com >> >> >> But >>>it's important to sytematically eliminate the possibilities in >>>this FOIA game, as I understand it. >>> >>>A more specific and limited request might turn the trick. At >>>least they could not refer you to the library. >>> >>>Bureaucrats have difficulty answering more than one question at >>>a time, in my experience. >>> >>>Steve Washam >>> >>>### >>> >>> >>>> >>>>Just a thought, what if items 1-5 of the Freedom of Information Act >>>>Request, contained below, don't exist. Why is the Dept. of Justice >>>>stating that the request designated organizations OUTSIDE of the >>>>Depatment of Justice? Why does the reply from the Dept. of Justice >>>>also state that the FOIA/PA request apply only to the records and >>>>agencies within the Executive Branch of the Federal Government? >>>>Are we to conclude that Janet Reno is part of an agency outside >>>>of the Executive Branch of the Federal Government? >>>> >>>> >>>>Brooks Martin >>>> >>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>> >>>>Paul Andrew Mitchell wrote: >>>> >>>>> Brooks, >>>>> >>>>> Yes, I faxed to her, and to the White House, >>>>> a NOTICE OF SPECIFIC INTENT TO EXECUTE >>>>> CITIZEN'S ARREST, AND DEMAND FOR IMMEDIATE >>>>> RESIGNATION, several weeks ago. >>>>> >>>>> /s/ Paul Mitchell >>>>> http://www.supremelaw.com >>>>> >>>>> At 01:32 PM 7/25/97 -0500, you wrote: >>>>> >Paul, >>>>> > >>>>> >I was wondering if you had followed up on this already. BTW, the >>>>> >MIME encoding works fine on my end. >>>>> > >>>>> >Regards, >>>>> >Brooks Martin >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>> >>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>Submitted to the LRT list by a member of that list. These were >>>>originally >>>>sent by Paul Mitchell to another list I believe. I'm not sure. >>>> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> I have executed FOIA requests for the official credentials >>>>> >> of the alleged Attorney General of the United States, Janet >>>>> >> Reno. My original request was dated May 2, 1997; appeal >>>>> >> dated May 17, 1997 and Courtesy Notice dated May 27, 1997. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> The following letter was posted to me on May 29, 1997. >>>>> >> This constitutes the respect our Just-Us Department has >>>>> >> for *their own* federal laws. Pay careful notice to where >>>>> >> they directed me to "resubmit" the FOIA request. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> --- >>>>> >> >>>>> >> U.S. Department of Justice >>>>> >> Washington, D.C. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> May 28, 1997 >>>>> >> >>>>> >> [my name] >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Dear [me]: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Your Freedom of Information Act/Privacy Act (FOIA/PA) >>>>> >> request was received by this office which serves as the >>>>> >> receipt and referral unit for FOIA/PA requests addressed >>>>> >> to the Department of Justice. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> The Freedom of information and Privacy Act apply only to >>>>> >> the records of agencies within the Executive Branch of >>>>> >> the Federal Government. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Your request designated organizations outside of the >>>>> >> Department of Justice and will have to be resubmitted by >>>>> >> you directly to them.* >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Sincerely, >>>>> >> >>>>> >> /s/ Betty S. Clark for >>>>> >> Benjamin F. Burrell, Director >>>>> >> Facilities and Administrative >>>>> >> Services Staff >>>>> >> Justice Management Division >>>>> >> >>>>> >> *Public Library >>>>> >> Tucson, Arizona 85719 >>>>> >> >>>>> >> ---end of letter--- >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> [This text is formatted in Courier 11, non-proportional spacing.] >>>>> >> >>>>> >> -----------------------------cut here---------------------------- >>>>> >> >>>>> >> c/o 2509 N. Campbell >>>>> >> Tucson [zip code exempt] >>>>> >> ARIZONA REPUBLIC >>>>> >> >>>>> >> May 2, 1997 >>>>> >> >>>>> >> FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT REQUEST >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Disclosure Officer >>>>> >> Office of the Attorney General >>>>> >> Department of Justice >>>>> >> 10th and Constitution, N.W. >>>>> >> Washington [zip code exempt] >>>>> >> DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Subject: Credentials of Janet Reno [sic] >>>>> >> "Attorney General" [sic] >>>>> >> Department of Justice >>>>> >> Washington, D.C. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Dear Disclosure Officer: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> This is a request under the Freedom of Information Act, 5 U.S.C. >>>>> >> 552 et seq., and regulations thereunder. This is My firm promise >>>>> >> to pay fees and costs for locating, duplicating, and mailing to >>>>> >> Me certified copies of the records requested below. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> If some of this request is exempt from release, please furnish Me >>>>> >> with those portions reasonably segregable. I am requiring >>>>> >> certified copies of the documents requested, in lieu of personal >>>>> >> inspection of same. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Admissible documents requested: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> 1. Certified copy of the solemn oath of office of one >>>>> >> named Janet Reno, as required by 5 U.S.C. 3331 and by >>>>> >> Article VI, Clause 3, of the Constitution for the >>>>> >> United States of America, as lawfully amended. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> 2. Certified copy of her fidelity bond or surety bond. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> 3. Certified copy of her Appointment Affidavit, signed and >>>>> >> witnessed, for the position she currently claims to >>>>> >> occupy. (This is an OMB-approved form.) >>>>> >> >>>>> >> 4. Certified copy of the formal delegation of authority, >>>>> >> beginning with the President, linking all officials in >>>>> >> the chain of command between him and the position she >>>>> >> currently claims to occupy. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> 5. Certified copy of her license to practice law in the >>>>> >> District of Columbia, if any. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> The requested records are not exempt from disclosure because >>>>> >> they: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> [Please see next page.] >>>>> >> >>>>> >> -----------------------------cut here---------------------------- >>>>> >> >>>>> >> (A) could not reasonably be expected to interfere with law >>>>> >> enforcement proceedings; >>>>> >> >>>>> >> (B) would not deprive a person of a right to a fair trial >>>>> >> or an impartial adjudication; >>>>> >> >>>>> >> (C) could not reasonably be expected to constitute an >>>>> >> unwarranted invasion of personal property; >>>>> >> >>>>> >> (D) could not reasonably be expected to disclose the >>>>> >> identity of a confidential source; >>>>> >> >>>>> >> (E) would not disclose techniques and procedures for law >>>>> >> enforcement investigations or prosecutions, and would >>>>> >> not disclose guidelines for law enforcement >>>>> >> investigations or prosecutions; >>>>> >> >>>>> >> (F) could not reasonably be expected to endanger the life >>>>> >> or physical safety of any individual. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> [see Exemption 7 in FOIA] >>>>> >> >>>>> >> If you are not the correct person to whom this Freedom of >>>>> >> Information Act Request should be directed, kindly forward it to >>>>> >> the correct person. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Time is of the essence. If you have any questions about your >>>>> >> rights and obligations under 5 U.S.C. 552, may we recommend that >>>>> >> you contact the office of the Attorney General in Washington, >>>>> >> D.C., for immediate assistance. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Please see U.S. Postal Service Publication #221 for addressing >>>>> >> instructions. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Thank you very much for your consideration, and for your timely >>>>> >> obedience to the controlling laws in this matter, specifically >>>>> >> the Freedom of Information Act and the Constitution for the >>>>> >> United States of America, as lawfully amended. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Respectfully submitted, >>>>> >> >>>>> >> /s/ [me] >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Citizen of Arizona state >>>>> >> all rights reserved without prejudice >>>>> >> >>>>> >> copy: Janet Reno >>>>> >> Department of Justice >>>>> >> 10th and Constitution, N.W. >>>>> >> Washington >>>>> >> DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA >>>>> >> >>>>> >> # # # >>>>> >> >>>>> >> -----------------------------cut here---------------------------- >>>>> >> >>>>> >> c/o 2509 N. Campbell >>>>> >> Tucson, Arizona state >>>>> >> zip code exempt >>>>> >> May 17, 1997 >>>>> >> >>>>> >> FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT APPEAL >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Disclosure Officer >>>>> >> Office of the Attorney General >>>>> >> Department of Justice >>>>> >> 10th and Constitution, N.W. >>>>> >> Washington [zip code exempt] >>>>> >> DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Dear Disclosure Officer: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> This is an appeal under the Freedom of Information Act. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> On May 2, 1997, I requested documents under the Freedom of >>>>> >> Information Act (see attached). To date, the requested documents >>>>> >> have not been produced. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> I hereby appeal your failure to produce the requested documents. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> The documents that were withheld must be disclosed under the FOIA >>>>> >> because the original Thirteenth Amendment prevents government >>>>> >> officials from exercising privileges of a nobility class, such as >>>>> >> being exempt from the principles of open government and freedom >>>>> >> of information. Evidence of the original Thirteenth Amendment >>>>> >> has been filed with the Foreperson of the Grand Jury and with the >>>>> >> Clerk of the United States District Court in Tucson, Arizona >>>>> >> state (a Republic). See also Colorado Records Custodian. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Disclosure of the documents which I requested is in the public >>>>> >> interest because the information, and the procedure for obtaining >>>>> >> the information, are likely to contribute significantly to public >>>>> >> understanding of the operations and activities of government and >>>>> >> are not primarily in My commercial interest. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Moreover, the information requested will help to improve public >>>>> >> confidence in the integrity of the United States (federal >>>>> >> government), or to confirm that there are persons attempting to >>>>> >> exercise executive and judicial branch powers in America without >>>>> >> any authority or jurisdiction whatsoever. See U.S. v. Lopez. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Thank you for your careful consideration of this appeal. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Respectfully submitted, >>>>> >> >>>>> >> /s/ [me] >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Citizen of Arizona state >>>>> >> all rights reserved without prejudice >>>>> >> >>>>> >> # # # >>>>> >> >>>>> >> -----------------------------cut here---------------------------- >>>>> >> >>>>> >> c/o 2509 N. Campbell >>>>> >> Tucson [zip code exempt] >>>>> >> ARIZONA REPUBLIC >>>>> >> >>>>> >> May 27, 1997 >>>>> >> >>>>> >> COURTESY NOTICE >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Janet Reno >>>>> >> U.S. Department of Justice >>>>> >> 10th and Constitution, N.W. >>>>> >> Washington [zip code exempt] >>>>> >> DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Subject: FOIA request and appeal >>>>> >> for your credentials >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Dear Ms. Reno: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> This is a courtesy notice to you, and to all of those government >>>>> >> officers, employees, and agents who rely upon formal delegation >>>>> >> of authority from the office of the U.S. Attorney General to >>>>> >> perfect their actions under authority of the United States >>>>> >> (federal government), that the final deadline for production of >>>>> >> your official credentials will fall on Monday, June 2, 1997, >>>>> >> at 5:00 p.m. Notice to principals is notice to agents. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Our original request for your credentials was submitted to you >>>>> >> via first class United States Mail on May 2, 1997 pursuant >>>>> >> to the Freedom of Information Act ("FOIA"), 5 U.S.C. 552 et seq. >>>>> >> Our administrative appeal for said credentials, given your >>>>> >> failure to produce same in response to Our proper request dated >>>>> >> May 2, 1997, was submitted to you via first class United >>>>> >> States Mail on May 17, 1997. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> The final deadline for production of your official credentials >>>>> >> falls officially on June 2, 1997 at end of the working day >>>>> >> (5:00 p.m., Eastern Standard Time). Beyond that deadline, Our >>>>> >> administrative remedies will have been exhausted, and the >>>>> >> doctrine of estoppel by acquiescence will be activated formally, >>>>> >> finally, and forever. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> If I need to explain to you the far-reaching implications that >>>>> >> will issue from your failure to produce, among other things, the >>>>> >> Oath of Office required of you by Article VI, Clause 3, in the >>>>> >> Constitution for the United States of America, as lawfully >>>>> >> amended, then Our nation is in much worse shape than I ever >>>>> >> thought possible heretofore. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Respectfully submitted, >>>>> >> >>>>> >> /s/ [me] >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Citizen of Arizona state >>>>> >> >>>>> >> # # # >>>>> >> >>>>> >> -----------------------------cut here---------------------------- >>>>> >> >>>>> >> ================================================================ >>>>> >> >>>>> >> All Rights Reserved Without Prejudice FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS GROUP >>>>> >> For Privacy: social security number rescission and consultation; >>>>> >> pure contractual trusts; gold-backed banking; offshore banking; >>>>> >> International Business Company formation; resident agent service >>>>> >> mailto:grscott@primenet.com >>>>> >> ================================================================ >>>>> >> >>>>> >> "Hey, YOU, don't even *think* about pickin' my pocket!" >>>>> >> >>>>> >> "Privacy is a fundamental Right. 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Campbell, #1776 : this is free speech, at its >>>>> best >>>>> Tucson, Arizona state : state zone, not the federal >>>>> zone >>>>> Postal Zone 85719/tdc : USPS delays first class w/o >>>>> this >>>>> >>>>> As agents of the Most High, we came here to establish justice. We >>>>> shall >>>>> not leave, until our mission is accomplished and justice reigns >>>>> eternal. >>>>> ======== >>>>> =============================================================== >>>>> [This text formatted on-screen in Courier 11, non-proportional >>>>> spacing.] >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >>======================================================================== >>Paul Andrew Mitchell : Counselor at Law, federal witness >>B.A., Political Science, UCLA; M.S., Public Administration, U.C. Irvine >> >>tel: (520) 320-1514: machine; fax: (520) 320-1256: 24-hour/day-night >>email: [address in tool bar] : using Eudora Pro 3.0.3 on 586 CPU >>website: http://www.supremelaw.com : visit the Supreme Law Library now >>ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776 : this is free speech, at its best >> Tucson, Arizona state : state zone, not the federal zone >> Postal Zone 85719/tdc : USPS delays first class w/o this >> >>As agents of the Most High, we came here to establish justice. We shall >>not leave, until our mission is accomplished and justice reigns eternal. >>======================================================================== >>[This text formatted on-screen in Courier 11, non-proportional spacing.] > > > > ======================================================================== Paul Andrew Mitchell : Counselor at Law, federal witness B.A., Political Science, UCLA; M.S., Public Administration, U.C. 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