Time: Thu Oct 16 12:04:57 1997 by primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA13214; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 12:01:00 -0700 (MST) by smtp02.primenet.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id LAA09584; Thu, 16 Oct 1997 11:56:51 -0700 (MST) via SMTP by smtp02.primenet.com, id smtpd009549; Thu Oct 16 11:56:39 1997 Date: Thu, 16 Oct 1997 11:57:38 -0700 To: snetnews@world.std.com From: Paul Andrew Mitchell [address in tool bar] Subject: SLS: Militias Create Big Hurdle for National ID Plan (fwd) The original MSO is probably gone, shredded. For purposes of space efficiency, the State DMV is probably authorized to microfiche the originals, and to archive all that microfiche. You should review your State Information Practices statutes, and determine how to file an administrative Notice and Demand for production of a certified copy of the microfiche which they control. Be sure to send them a stamped envelope, with your proper mailing location. To be conspicuous about it, I would buy the $3.00 stamp, and place it on a flat rate Priority U.S. Mail envelope, with your proper mailing location, pursuant to USPS Publication #221. This will probably be the best three FRN's you ever spent! In this way, if they post the flat rate envelope, they are giving explicit recognition to your "situs" within the state zone. If they keep the $3.00 stamp and do not post or return your flat rate envelope, you have them on theft of postage; this is a federal offense. If they fall silent, you are entitled to proceed on the basis of the presumption that they are, in fact, the holder in due course, but they have chosen to avoid admitting that they have it. Under these conditions, silence is a fraud, pursuant to U.S. v. Tweel, and silence also activates estoppel, pursuant to Carmine v. Bowen. Any way it goes, you win!! For further details, please enroll in the Supreme Law School ("SLS"). /s/ Paul Mitchell http://supremelaw.com At 08:03 AM 10/16/97 -0400, you wrote: > >-> SearchNet's SNETNEWS Mailing List > >In a message dated 97-10-15 16:08:52 EDT, you write: > >> The certificate of title to your automobile is Not title, it's merely >> evidence that title exists. Your car's legal TITLE is the MSO, which >> the dealer surrendered to the State. Ms. Rottero said the MSO is put >> on microfilm for permanent keeping, the original is destroyed. >> > >Is there no way an individual can request the original before destroying? >This encourages me to lease since I will never own anyway. > >Debi > >-> Send "subscribe snetnews " to majordomo@world.std.com >-> Posted by: Debourke@aol.com > > > =========================================================================== Paul Andrew Mitchell, Sui Juris : Counselor at Law, federal witness 01 B.A.: Political Science, UCLA; M.S.: Public Administration, U.C.Irvine 02 tel: (520) 320-1514: machine; fax: (520) 320-1256: 24-hour/day-night 03 email: [address in tool bar] : using Eudora Pro 3.0.3 on 586 CPU 04 website: http://supremelaw.com : visit the Supreme Law Library now 05 ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776 : this is free speech, at its best 06 Tucson, Arizona state : state zone, not the federal zone 07 Postal Zone 85719/tdc : USPS delays first class w/o this 08 _____________________________________: Law is authority in written words 09 As agents of the Most High, we came here to establish justice. We shall 10 not leave, until our mission is accomplished and justice reigns eternal. 11 ======================================================================== 12 [This text formatted on-screen in Courier 11, non-proportional spacing.] 13
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