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From: Paul Andrew Mitchell [address in tool bar]
Subject: SLS: Missing 13th amendment

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>
>The following address: "To my countrymen" was forwarded to me.  It was
>signed "Tom Read, an ordinary citizen".  I presume that by ordinary, he
>means that he has swollowed the party-line, sinker & all. 
>
>The party-line is the one that teachers are taught by their professors who
>learned from their predecessors who held certain myths to be self-evident.
>Amongst those myths are the ones supported by the authors you quote,
>below.  You are accompanied by three lawyers, one law school librarian,
>and a whole slew of academicians wearing egg cosmetic; none of whom have
>done any original research, by admission.  I include Bernstein and Agel
>amongst the slew.  Incidently, I purchased their book; and, have used it
>as an example of how cults work to corrupt governments.
>
>In his declarations to Congress while seeking assent to the War of 1812,
>Madison gave one of his reasons as the fact that the Government had been
>infiltrated by secret foreign agents with the intent to overthrow
>constitutional government.  The titles of nobility amendment was an
>enforcing provision to an otherwise empty provision of the Constitution.
>At the same time as its ratification, Nicholas Biddle, President of the
>Bank of the United States informed President Monroe that the Directors of
>the Bank had lent all of the money to themselves; and, as a result, there
>would be no money from them to run the government.
>
>Now, I have copies of the original correspondence.  There is also a copy
>from the Journal of the Secretary of State's correspondence that says "It
>is the opinion of the Executive that under the 13th amendment to the
>constitution by the acceptance of such an appointment from any foreign
>Government, a citizen of the United States ceases to enjoy that character,
>and becomes incapable of holding any office of trust or profit under the
>United States, or either of them."  It is initialed -J.Q.A. [John Quincy
>Adams].
>
>There is far more to this matter than I have time to record in this
>sitting.  We welcome honest and intelligent inquiry but do not have the
>time to research, keeps beans on the table, and address the fantasies of
>those who would leap into battle with dummy amunition.
>
>Yours, &c.
>
>David Dodge
>
>> >	The myth of the "missing" Thirteenth Amendment:
>> >	'There is a missing "Thirteenth Amendment" that was duly ratified 
>> >and published in many state records, and this Amendment bars lawyers from 
>> >serving in government.'   Hogwash!
>> >	I suggest to all of you who feel compelled to buy into this swill 
>> >to go out and buy an excellent authority on the Amendments entitled 
>> >"Amending America", by Jerome Agel and Richard B. Bernstein, 1993, ISBN 
>> >0-8129-2038-4 (First Edition).  On pages 177 and 178, this book discusses 
>> >"The Orphans Of The Amending Process".  One of the "Orphans" is the 
>> >anti-nobility provision complained about by those who would whine to us 
>> >rather than empower themselves.  Of this particular anomoly in our 
>> >history, this book offers a well presented account, and I repeat it here 
>> >(footnotes deleted).
>> >
>> >	"The 1810 proposal would have supplemented Article I, section 9, 
>> >clause 8 of the Constitution, which provides:
>> >
>> >	No Title of Nobility shall be granted by the United States:  And 
>> >no Person holding any Office of Profit or Trust under them, shall, 
>> >without the Consent of the Congress, accept of any present, Emolument, 
>> >Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince, or foreign 
>> >State.
>> >
>> >	[Check it out folks, the anti-nobility issue never existed!  It's 
>> >always been 'unconstitutional']  Although the people were committed of 
>> >republicanism and the rejection of European ideas of aristocracy and 
>> >nobility, nervous lawmakers believed that ideas of nobility exercised a 
>> >pernicious, seductive power.  In 1788, the ratifying conventions of four 
>> >states demanded amendments either forbidding Congress from granting 
>> >consent to a citizen's acceptance of a title of nobility or striking the 
>> >phrase 'without the Consent of the Congress.'  Attempts to revive these 
>> >proposals during the First Congress's discussion of the Bill of Rights 
>> >failed to gather any support.
>> >	But, on May 1, 1810, Congress proposed an amendment strenghing 
>> >the ban on titles of nobility, with only five Senators and three 
>> >Representatives voting against the proposal:
>> >
>> >	If any citizen of the United States shall accept, claim, receive 
>> >or retain any title of nobility or honour or shall, without the consent 
>> >of Congress, accept and retain any present, pension, office or emolument 
>> >of any kind whatever, from any emperor, king, prince or foreign power, 
>> >such person shall cease to be a citizen of the United States, and shall 
>> >be incapable of holding any office of trust or profit under them, or 
>> >either of them.
>> >
>> >	The origins of this proposal are a minor mystery of American 
>> >constitutional history.  Neither the record of debates in Congress nor 
>> >the major newspapers of the period cast any light on its purposes or the 
>> >motives of its supporters.  Historians have suggested two possible 
>> >explanations:
>> >	First, apprehension was widespread, especially in 
>> >Federalist-dominated New England, that the French empire of Napoleon I 
>> >might exert a dangerously corrupting influence on American life.  Jerome 
>> >Bonaparte, a brother of Napoleon, had come to the United States and 
>> >conducted a liason with a Baltimore prostitute named Betsy Patterson [my 
>> >how some things never change], whom he made pregnant.  Federalists, 
>> >seizing on the scandal of the Bonaparte-Patterson relationship, charged 
>> >that Bonaparte would attempt to secure the election of his illegitimate 
>> >son to the Presidency.  Although Federalists in Congress offered the 
>> >amendment to embarrass Republican President James Madison, the 
>> >Republicans endorsed it, declaring 'It can do no harm.'  Second, the 
>> >amendment was another manifestation of American nativism and resentment 
>> >against foreigners and foreign countries -- feelings that achieved 
>> >special virulence during the Napoleonic Wars in Europe and just before 
>> >the War of 1812.
>> >	Whether a political maneuver or a powerful expression of nativist 
>> >prejudice, the amendment fell only one state short of ratification.  
>> >Ironically, in a mirror-image of the problems plaguing the Eleventh 
>> >Amendment (which was adopted in fact three years before it was declared 
>> >adopted in law), Congress and the American people erroneously assumed 
>> >that the 'titles' amendment had been ratified.  The manual prepared for 
>> >the Fifteenth Congress (1817-1819) listed it as part of the Constitution. 
>> > Confusion over the listing sparked a congressional investigation, which 
>> >confirmed that the upper house of South Carolina's legislature had 
>> >rejected the proposal as unnecessary.  Even so, in some 
>> >nineteenth-century histories of the United States and editions of the 
>> >Constitution, this 'Article XII' appeared as a valid part of the 
>> >Constitution."
>> >
>> >	Lawyers in America are no better a lot than their counterparts in 
>> >Europe.  The great difference lies in the difference between our forms of 
>> >government -- not issues of nobility.  In America, the Constitution 
>> >recognizes no manner of nobility, except that all powers of government 
>> >originate from within We the People.  I hope somebody just read that.  
>> >It's WE THE PEOPLE who are the nobles -- if nobles there were.  
>> >	Lawyers like to think of themselves as special folks, even as 
>> >having a special kind of 'nobility'.  After all, just look at how much we 
>> >stupid people pay the bastards!!  THEY put that stupid "Esq." after their 
>> >name (many don't do that by the way -- my friends don't).  Any one of you 
>> >who call yourselves patriots can do the same thing.  There's no law 
>> >against it.  Shucks, some of you guys claim to be GOD, what's a little 
>> >Esq. compared to GOD?  I hope the message is getting through that it 
>> >doesn't matter what they may think of themselves, under this Constitution 
>> >it only matters what we think of them.  
>> >	Laugh at them!  Ignore them.  They put their pants on 
>> >one-leg-at-a-time under our Constitution, just like you or me.  But, you 
>> >who make an issue out of them are GIVING them a nobility they don't have. 
>> > YOU are the enemy of our Constitution -- not the buffoons whom you pay 
>> >the big-bucks to tell you that you have no rights.  
>> >	The sooner we all get down to the serious business of holding all 
>> >those using official, or quasi-official, power to subvert our 
>> >Constitution accountable to it, the sooner we'll all begin to enjoy the 
>> >liberty it promises to each of us.
>> >	That brings me to the last point.  PLEASE READ Sec. 3 and Sec. 
>> >4 of the Fourteenth Amendment.  All you 'common-law' pundits have a real 
>> >big stick there, and all the gnashing of teeth over whether an American 
>> >Flag has gold fringe or not, or what you think our Amendments may or may 
>> >not be, doesn't matter.  Did any of you -- even the most vociferous of 
>> >you -- hear that?  IT DOESN'T MATTER!!  
>> >	The Constitution we have is the one you find in your kid's 
>> >history book, and its pretty damned good.  Quit your bitchin, and get to 
>> >work using it.  You don't need anything else.  If nothing else, quit 
>> >trying to poison my friends with your impotence.  You may not feel 
>> >empowered to enforce its provisions, but some of us are gathering who do. 
>> >	I'm finished now, but I'm sending a copy of this to Linda T.  If 
>> >I've got it wrong somewhere, I have confidence she'll put me in my place.
>> >	Regards,
>> >
>> >	Tom Read, an ordinary citizen.


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