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Date: Tue, 04 Mar 1997 16:21:57 -0800
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From: Paul Andrew Mitchell [address in tool bar]
Subject: SLS: 31 CFR 51.2 and 52.2
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At 04:04 PM 3/2/97 EST, you wrote:
>OK Paul, I see that the two citations have different words quoted in your
>examples. I'll bite: What's the significance (in layman's terms)?
The de jure "state" courts are convened
under the "state" constitutions. The
de facto "State" courts are convened
under the municipal jurisdiction of the
United States (federal government), under
the pretense that the states have become
territories of the United States (federal
government). This is a massive fraud,
because it causes "foreign law" to invade
the Union states, in violation of the Guarantee
Clause. It dates from the secret bankruptcy
in 1933, when FDR took office.
Now, here's the rub: the U.S. Constitution
(with Bill of Rights, of course), does not apply
inside federal territories. For some background
on this, read "The Lawless Rehnquist" in the
Supreme Law Library at URL:
http://www.supremelaw.com
One of the key pivots is The Insular Cases, which
are cited in "The Lawless Rehnquist."
I hope this helps.
/s/ Paul Mitchell
What
>difference would a capital "s" make in referring to a state? The Superior
>Court caption examples really went over my head.
Don't worry, those subtle differences
are meant to be missed.
SUPERIOR COURT OF THE STATE OF ARIZONA
(read "Superior Court of the State of Arizona")
is the de facto forum, operating as a
territory of the United States (federal government).
SUPERIOR COURT OF ARIZONA
is the de jure forum, operating as a
sovereign Republic under the Guarantee Clause.
This latter form may also appear as:
SUPERIOR COURT OF ARIZONA STATE
(read "Superior Court of Arizona state")
You talk of two
>governments operating over the same geographic territory -- what's that
>about?
For the very best explanation, see Howard Freeman's
classic essay "The Two United States and the Law"
in the Supreme Law Library at URL:
http://www.supremelaw.com
The municipal jurisdiction of Congress is a
legislative democracy which is not ruled by
the Constitution; it is governed by majority
rule (the majority of House and Senate).
Think of Congress as "city hall" for the federal zone!
Congress can legislate dog leash laws for D.C.,
if it wants to do so. Since federal citizens are
members of a political community who owe their allegiance
to the federal government, Congress can legislative for
them (the "dog leash"), no matter where they are in the
Universe, and do so without regard to the fundamental
Guarantees which are enumerated in the U.S. Constitution.
The Guarantees of the Constitution extend to the
federal zone ONLY as Congress makes those guarantees
applicable there, by statutes!
/s/ Paul Mitchell
Also you mentioned a Presidential Order in your previous post
>referring to these examples -- what order are you referring to, when was
>it issued, and what connection does it have to the cited sections and the
>rest of this?
I don't have the E.O. number yet, but
Richard McDonald tells me that an E.O.
was issued to remove 31 CFR 51.2 and
52.2 from all federal depository libraries,
most probably because those regulations
are very important material proof of what
I am telling you here.
/s/ Paul Mitchell
>YBIC,
>Bob
>+++
>On Sat, 01 Mar 1997 06:48:24 -0800 Paul Andrew Mitchell
>[address in tool bar] writes:
>>[This text is formatted in Courier 11, non-proportional spacing. ]
>>
>>Here is a parallel table of definitions, which provides
>>stunning proof for both de jure and de facto governments
>>operating over the same geographic territories in America:
>>
>>
>> 31 CFR 51.2: 31 CFR 52.2:
>>
>>(i) Governor means the Governor (f) Governor means the Governor
>> of any of the 50 State of any of the 50 states ....
>> governments ....
>>
>>(o) Secretary means the Secretary (n) Secretary means the Secretary
>> of the Treasury. of the U.S. Department of the
>> Treasury.
>>
>>(q) State government means the (o) State government means the
>> government of any of the government of any of the
>> 50 State governments or the 50 states.
>> District of Columbia.
>>
>> |---- de facto government ----| |---- de jure government ----|
>>
>>
>>There you have it! This is our authority to
>>spell "state" with a small "s", as in
>>"state Citizen" or "Citizen of Arizona state."
>>
>>The capital "S" "States" are the corporate,
>>de facto versions, which are operating
>>outside the Law (i.e. ultra vires, to be
>>precise).
>>
>>So, there must be an important difference
>>between a court caption which reads:
>>
>> IN THE SUPERIOR COURT OF THE STATE OF ARIZONA
>> IN AND FOR THE COUNTY OF PIMA
>>
>>on the one hand, and
>>
>> IN THE SUPERIOR COURT OF ARIZONA STATE
>> IN AND FOR PIMA COUNTY
>>
>>on the other hand. See Arizona Rules of Court,
>>Rules of Criminal Procedure, Form XXIII.
>>
>>It is interesting that Form II(b) has a caption
>>which reads:
>>
>> SUPERIOR COURT OF ARIZONA
>> ________ COUNTY
>>
>>This form closely parallels the latter of the
>>two forms described above (PIMA COUNTY, not
>>COUNTY OF PIMA).
>>
>>Notice, in particular, that there is a
>>"Department of the Treasury" and a
>>"U.S. Department of the Treasury" in
>>31 CFR 51.2 and 52.2
>>
>>We make an educated guess that the one
>>appearing on all IRS correspondence is
>>the former, not the latter!
>>
>>Many thanks to Richard McDonald for making
>>this discovery many months ago.
>>
>>/s/ Paul Mitchell
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