Time: Mon Apr 14 22:53:30 1997 by primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id PAA16474 for [address in tool bar]; Mon, 14 Apr 1997 15:54:35 -0700 (MST) Delivered-To: liberty-and-justice-outgoing@majordomo.pobox.com Date: Mon, 14 Apr 1997 22:33:58 -0700 To: liberty-and-justice@pobox.com From: Paul Andrew Mitchell [address in tool bar] Subject: Re: L&J: Tax Liability References: <0037000003283645000002*@MHS> <3.0.1.32.19970414112520.0090b590@popd.ix.netcom.com> <3.0.1.32.19970414140240.0092ad70@popd.ix.netcom.com> It goes much deeper than this, most of the time. I approached the descriptive problem by starting with the etymology of the term "attorn." Without too much surprise, I discovered that it means to supervise the transfer of an estate from the old lord to the new lord; it is a term from feudal (federal) law. That pretty much sums it up. Now, you will look at the office of the U.S. ATTORNeys in a completely old and different light, won't you? Their many conflicts of interest are well documented. As officers of the court, their first allegiance is to the court, followed by their allegiance to "public policy." Clients come third or not at all. If you look at the courts as a "business," and lots of cases talk about the "business of the courts," then being an officer of the court is just like being an officer of a business: Priority #1: MAKE MONEY FOR YOUR BOSS Priority #2: MAKE MONEY FOR YOURSELF Priority #3: MAKE MONEY FOR CO-WORKERS /s/ Paul Mitchell p.s. Check out the essay entitled "Esquires" in the Supreme Law Library at URL: http://www.supremelaw.com At 05:10 PM 4/14/97 -0400, you wrote: >Any court. Attorneys are licensed by and >for the court. The courts tell them what >they can and cannot do. Contrary to what >you may think, attorneys do not represent >you. They are agents of the court that >intercede on your behalf. > >Basically, we pay attorneys to ask favors >of the court on our behalf. Sometimes they >are granted, sometimes not. Depends >on who makes the best arguement and offers >the biggest bribe. > >That's why attorneys are licensed. To offer >payolla without a license is illegal. > >Jim Bullock > > >R. Knauer-AIMNET wrote: >> >> >If you have an attorney representing you >> >in a tax case, you can't win. You can >> >only reduce your losses. >> >> ----- >> >> I assume you mean tax court, in which case I believe it. >> >> What about civil court? >> >> Bob Knauer >> >> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> Unsub info - send e-mail to majordomo@majordomo.pobox.com, with >> "unsubscribe liberty-and-justice" in the body (not the subject) >> Liberty-and-Justice list-owner is Mike Goldman <whig@pobox.com> > >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >Unsub info - send e-mail to majordomo@majordomo.pobox.com, with >"unsubscribe liberty-and-justice" in the body (not the subject) >Liberty-and-Justice list-owner is Mike Goldman <whig@pobox.com> > > ======================================================================== Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S. : Counselor at Law, federal witness email: [address in tool bar] : Eudora Pro 3.0.1 on Intel 586 CPU web site: http://www.supremelaw.com : library & law school registration ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776 : this is free speech, at its best Tucson, Arizona state : state zone, not the federal zone Postal Zone 85719/tdc : USPS delays first class w/o this ======================================================================== =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Unsub info - send e-mail to majordomo@majordomo.pobox.com, with "unsubscribe liberty-and-justice" in the body (not the subject) Liberty-and-Justice list-owner is Mike Goldman <whig@pobox.com>
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