Time: Thu Apr 17 17:35:59 1997 by primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA23419; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 14:36:14 -0700 (MST) by usr09.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id OAA04398; Thu, 17 Apr 1997 14:33:55 -0700 (MST) Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 17:25:23 -0700 To: Patricia Neill <pnpj@db1.cc.rochester.edu> From: Paul Andrew Mitchell [address in tool bar] Subject: Reichstag File and OKC Anniversary Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hello Patty, You know, I have half a mind to write to Janet Reno, in light of her recent failure to produce a certified copy of her credentials, and tell her that if she so much as steps foot in Arizona state, I will execute a Citizen's Arrest upon her person, for murder. I thought this might be the proper thing to say in a formal NOTICE OF INTENT. She has, after all, public accepted responsibility for Waco. We can let the jury decide; that's what juries are for. /s/ Paul Mitchell http://www.supremelaw.com At 03:33 PM 4/17/97 -0400, you wrote: > >----- Begin Included Message ----- > > >Date: Tue, 15 Apr 1997 16:11:33 -0600 >From: BlueSkies@public-action.com >Subject: Reichstag Fire and OKC Anniversary >Newsgroups: alt.current-events.clinton.whitewater,alt.current-events.usa, >alt.politics.radical-left,talk.policits.guns,talk.politics.libertarian > >As we approach the second anniversary of the Oklahoma City bombing, let us >reflect on the Reichstag Fire, which was deliberately engineered by >Hitler's supporters to consoidate the power of the Nazis. On April 19, >1995, the US had the motive, the means, and the opportuity to pull off the >OKC bombing. And it still had the blood of innocent Branch >Davidians--including 24 innocent children--on its hands, showing us its >predispositon to commit such barbarities. > >Blame it on the militas? The only militia Tim McVeigh ever belonged to >was the US Army. The US is the prime suspect in the OKC murders. >Now to visit history and the historical archetype: > >(from The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich by William L. Shirer, Simon & >Schuster Inc., 1990 edition, pp 190-5. Purchase of the book is >recommended to those interested in seeing what the future may >hold for us, as the US follows the fascist blueprint.) > >*** > >On January 31, 1933, the day after Hitler was named Chancellor, Goebbels >wrote in his diary: “In a conference with the Fuehrer we lay down the line >for the fight against the Red terror. For the moment we shall abstain from >direct countermeasures. The Bolshevik attempt at revolution must first >burst into flame. At the proper moment we shall strike.” > >Despite increasing provocation by the Nazi authorities there was no sign >of a revolution, Communist or Socialist, bursting into flames as the >electoral campaign got under way. By the beginning of February the Hitler >government had banned all communist meetings and shut down the Communist >press. Social Democrat rallies were either forbidden or broken up by the >S>A rowdies, and the leading Socialist newspapers were continually >suspended. Even the Catholic Center Party did not escape the Nazi terror. > >Stegerwald, the leader of the Catholic Trade Unions, was beaten by >Brownshirts when he attempted to address a meeting, and Bruening was >obliged to seek police protection at another rally after S.A. troopers had >wounded a number of followers. Altogether fifty-one anti-Nazis were listed >as murdered during the electoral campaign, and the Nazis claimed that >eighteen of their own number had been done to death. > >Goering’s key position as minister of the Interior of Prussia now began to >be noticed. Ignoring the restraining hand of Papen, who as minister of >Prussia was supposedly above him, Goering removed hundreds of republican >officials and replace them with Nazis, mostly S.A. and S.S. officers. He >ordered the police to avoid “at all costs” hostility to the S.A., the >S.S., and the Stahlhelm but on the other hand to show no mercy to those >who were “hostile to the State.” He urged the police “to make use of >firearms” and warned that those who didn’t would be punished. This >was an outfight call for the shooting down of all who opposed Hitler by the >police of a state (Prussia) which controlled two thirds of Germany. Just >to make sure that the job would be ruthlessly done, Goering on February 22 >established an auxiliary police force of 50,000 men, of whom 40,000 were >drawn from the ranks of the S.A. and the S.S. and the rest from the >Stahlhelm. Police power in Prussia was thus largely carried out by Nazi >thugs. It was a rash German who appealed to such a “police” for protection >against the against the Nazi terrorists. > >And yet despite all the terror the “Bolshevik revolution” which Goebbels, >Hitler, and Goering were looking for failed to “burst into flames.” If it >could not be provoked, might it not have to be invented? > >On February 24, Goering’s police raided the Karl Liebknecht Haus, the >Communist headquarters in Berlin. It had been abandoned some weeks before >by the Communist leaders, a number of whom had already gone underground or >quietly slipped off to Russia. But piles of propaganda pamphlets had been >left in the cellar and these were enough to enable Goering to announce in >an official communiquJ that the seized “documents” proved that the >Communists were about to launch the revolution. The reaction of the public >and even of some of the conservatives in the government was one of >skepticism. It was obvious that something more sensational must be found >to stampeded the public before the election took place on March 5. >On the evening of February 27, four of the most powerful men in Germany >were gathered at two separate dinners in Berlin. In the exclusive >Herrenklub in the Vosstrasse, Vice-Chancellor von Papen was entertaining >President von Hindenburg. Out at Goebbels home, Chancellor Hitler had >arrived to dine en famille. According to Goebbels, they were relaxing, >playing music on the gramophone and telling stories. “Suddenly,” he >recounted later in his diary, “a telephone call from Dr. Hanfstaengl: >‘The Reichstag is on fire!’ I am sure he is telling a tall tale and decline >even to mention it the Fuehrer.” > >But the diners at the Herrenklub were just around the corner from the >Reichstag. > >Suddenly [Papen later wrote] we noticed a red glow through the windows and >heard sound of shouting in the street. One of the servants came hurrying >up to me and whispered: “The Reichstag is on fire!” which I repeated to >the President. He got up and from the window we could see the dome of the >Reichstag looking as though it were illuminated by searchlights. Every now >and again a burst of flame and a swirl of smoke blurred the outline. > >The Vice-Chancellor packed the aged President home in his own car and >hurried off to the burning building. In the meantime Goebbels, according >to his account, had had second thoughts about Putzi Hanfstaengl’s “tall >tale,” had made some telephone calls and learned that the Reichstag was >in flames. Within a few seconds he and his Fuehrer were racing “at sixty >miles an hour down the Charlottenburger Chaussee toward the scene of >the crime.” > >That it was a crime, a Communist crime, they proclaimed at once on arrival >at the fire. Goering, sweating and puffing and quite beside himself with >excitement, was already there ahead of them declaiming to heaven, as >Papen later recalled, that “this is a Communist crime against the new >government.” To the Gestapo chief, Rudolf Diels, Goering shouted, “This >is the beginning of the Communist revolution! We must not wait a minute. >We will show no mercy. Every Communist official must be shot, where >he is found. Every Communist deputy must this very night be strung up.” >The whole truth about the Reichstag fire will probably never be known. >Nearly all those who knew it are now dead, most of them slain by Hitler >in the months that followed. Even at Nuremberg the mystery could not be >entirely unraveled, though there is enough evidence to establish beyond a >reasonable doubt that it was the Nazis who planned the arson and carried >it out for their own political ends. > >>From Goering’s Reichstag President’s Palace an underground passage, >built to carry the central heating system, ran to the Reichstag building. >Through this tunnel Karl Ernst, a former bellhop who had become the >Berlin S.A. leader, led a small detachment of storm troopers on the night >of February 27 to the Reichstag, where they scattered gasoline and >self-igniting chemicals and then made their way quickly back to the palace >the way they had come. At the same time a half-witted Dutch Communist >with a passion for arson, Marinus van der Lubbe, had made his way into the >huge, darkened and to him unfamiliar building and set some small fires of >his own. This feeble-minded pyromaniac was a godsend to the Nazis. He had >been picked up by the S.A. a few days before after having been overheard >in a bar boasting that he had attempted to set fire to several public >buildings and that he was going to try the Reichstag next. > >The coincidence that the Nazis had found a demented Communist arsonist >who was out to do exactly what they themselves had determined to do seems >incredible but is nevertheless supported by evidence. The idea for the >fire almost certainly originated with Goebbels and Goering. Hans Gisevius, >and official in the Prussian Ministry of the Interior at the time, >testified at Nuremberg that “it was Goebbels who first thought of setting >the Reichstag on fire,” and Rudolf Diels, the Gestapo chief, added in a >affidavit that “Goering know exactly how the fire was to be started” and >had ordered him “to prepare, prior to the fire, a list of people who were >to be arrested immediately after it.” General Franz Halder, Chief of the >German General Staff during the early part of World War II, recalled at >Nuremberg how on one occasion Goering had boasted of his deed. > >At a luncheon on the birthday of the Fuehrer in 1942 the conversation >turned to the topic of the Reichstag building and its artistic value. I >heard with own ears when Goering interrupted the conversation and shouted: >“The only one who really knows about the Reichstag is I, because I set it >on fire!” With that he slapped his thigh with the flat of his hand. > >Van der Lubbe, it seems clear, was a dupe of the Nazis. He was encouraged >to try to set the Reichstag on fire. But the main job was to be >done—without his knowledge, of course—by the storm troopers. Indeed, it >was established that the Dutch half-wit did not possess the means to set >so vast a building on fire so quickly. Two and a half minutes after he >entered, the great central hall was fiercely burning. He had only his >shirt for tender. The main fires, according to the testimony of experts at >the trial, had been set with considerable quantities of chemicals and >gasoline. It was obvious that one man could not have carried them into the >building, nor would it have been possible for him to start so many fires >in so many scattered places in so short a time. > >Van der Lubbe was arrested on the spot and Goering, as he afterward told >the court, wanted to hang him at once. The next day Ernst Torgler, >parliamentary leader of the Communists, gave himself up to the police when >he heard that Goering had implicated him, and a few days later Georgi >Dimitroff, a Bulgarian Communist who later became Prime Minister of >Bulgaria, and two other Bulgarian Communists, Popov and Tanev, were >apprehended by the police. Their subsequent trial before the Supreme Court >at Leipzig turned into something of a fiasco for the Nazis… > >Torgler and the three Bulgarians were acquitted, though the German >Communist leader was immediately taken into “protective custody,” where he >remained until his death during the second war. Van der Lubbe was found >guilty and decapitated. > >The trial, despite the subserviancy of the court to the Nazi authorities, >cast a great deal of suspicion on Goering and the Nazis, but it came too >late to have any practical effect. For Hitler lost no time in exploiting >the Reichstag fire to the limit. > >On the day following the fire, February 28, he prevailed on President >Hindenburg to sign a decree “for the Protection of the People and the >State” suspending the seven sections of the constitution which guaranteed >individual and civil liberties. Described as a “defensive measure against >Communist acts of violence endangering the state,” the decree laid down >that: > >Restrictions on personal liberty, on the right of free expression of >opinion, including freedom of the press; on the rights of assembly and >association; and violations of the privacy of postal, telegraphic, and >telephonic communications; and warrants for house searchers, orders for >confiscations as well as restrictions on property, are also possible >beyond the legal limits otherwise prescribed. > >I addition, the decree authorized the Reich government to take over >complete power in the federal states when necessary and imposed the death >sentence for a number of crimes, including “serious disturbances of the >peace” by armed persons. > >Thus with one stroke Hitler was able not only to legally gag his opponents >and arrest them at his will but, by making the trumped-up Communist threat >“official,” as it were, to throw millions of the middle class and the >peasantry into a frenzy of fear that unless they voted for National >Socialism at the elections a week hence, the Bolsheviks might take over. > >Some four thousand Communist officials and a great many Social Democrat >and liberal leaders were arrested, including members of the Reichstag, >who, according to the law, were immune from arrest. This was the first >experience Germans had had with the Nazi terror backed up by the >government. Truckloads of storm troopers roared through streets all over >Germany, breaking into homes, rounding up victims and carting them off to >S.A. barracks, where they were tortured and beaten. The Communist press >and political meetings were suppressed; the social Democrat newspapers and >many liberal journals were suspended and the meetings of the democratic >parties either banned or broken up. Only the Nazis and their Nationalist >allies were permitted to campaign unmolested. > >With all the resources of the national and Prussian governments at their >disposal, and with plenty of money from big business in their coffers, the >Nazis carried on an election propaganda such as Germany had never seen >before. For the first time the State-run radio carried the voices of >Hitler Goering, and Goebbels, to every corner of the land. The streets, >bedecked with swastika flags, echoed to the tramp of the storm troopers. > >There were mass rallies, torchlight parades, the din of loudspeakers in >the squares. The billboards were plastered with flamboyant Nazi posters >and at night bonfires lit up the hills. The electorate was in turn >cajoled with promises of a German paradise, intimidated by the brown >terror in the streets, and frightened by “revelations” about the Communist >“revolution.” The day after the Reichstag fire the Prussian government >issued a long statement declaring that it had found Communist “documents” >proving: > >Government buildings museums, mansions, and essential plants were to >be burned down … Women and children were to be sent in front of terrorist >groups … the burning of the Reichstag was to be the signal for a bloody >insurrection and civil war … It has been ascertained that today was to >have seen throughout Germany terrorist acts against individual persons, >against private property, and against the life and limb of the peaceful >population, and also the beginning of general civil war. > >END > > >============================================================================= >This mailing list is processed through Majordomo at Oakland University. >If you wish to unsubscribe from this mailing list, send electronic mail >to majordomo@oak.oakland.edu. 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