Time: Tue May 27 06:09:36 1997 by primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id FAA21051; Tue, 27 May 1997 05:59:06 -0700 (MST) by usr10.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id FAA24308; Tue, 27 May 1997 05:58:58 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 06:07:35 -0700 To: (Recipient list suppressed) From: Paul Andrew Mitchell [address in tool bar] Subject: SLS: Comment on "The Cooper File" (fwd) Cc: Liberty Northwest Conference <libnw@dmi.net> >Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 00:43:46 -0700 >From: Harold Thomas <harold@halcyon.com> >To: Liberty Northwest Conference <libnw@dmi.net> >Subject: Comment on "The Cooper File" > >Dear Friends, > >I received the following comments (attached at the end of my little >diatribe) from Attorney Larry Becraft regarding "The Cooper File," >recently posted. Larry's comments are very important for several >reasons. > >First, when I posted "The Cooper File," I noted that I couldn't find >anything wrong with it. I believe I asked for anyone who COULD find >anything wrong with it to let me know, and I further suggested that >people send it to their congressional representatives to get an >explanation. Well, I'm grateful that Larry has let me know that he >believes there are AT LEAST two things wrong with "The Cooper File." He >has been quite specific, as you will see below. > >Larry's very real frustration comes in having to go into court facing >terrible case law precedent and/or trying to rescue patriot/tax movement >types who have already been made to look foolish -- both situations >sometimes caused by the filing of papers or making of arguments which >are, quite literally, "frivolous" in that they are based on faulty or >out of context information. > >If Larry's observations about "The Cooper File" are correct, then, >regardless of how much otherwise correct information is contained >therein, use of the document could prove disastrous. If the IRS is, >indeed, really just the BATF operating out of a triple-tiered, offshore >trust, PROOF of such would be political/legal dynamite. If, on the >other hand, this theory CANNOT be proved, yet attracts all sorts of >attention and is rammed in the faces of politicians and the courts, >guess what happens when the theory is discredited? Yup, a major >embarrassment for the patriot/constitutionalist/tax movement and >everyone whom the Establishment and the media lump together under those >labels. I hope that answers to Larry's questions will be forthcoming, >and if I receive those answers I'll pass them along ASAP. > >Larry's observations about "The Cooper File" bring to mind a couple of >other realities of the battle against the abuses of convoluted gov't and >incomprehensible law. First, much of the frantic theorizing that goes >on with respect to the income tax, the federal reserve, federal >jurisdiction, you name it, is essentially caused by just those two >things -- a body of law which, both by sheer volume as well as style, >has become UNKNOWABLE; and governmental abuse and misapplication of that >unknowable law to a degree which could fairly be described as >tyrannical, if not insane. > >Second, because of the extent of the fraud and abuses to be found in law >and gov't, many are coming to the conclusion that correcting any >meaningful amount of the problem by working "within the system" is naive >at best. It's like the worst tangle of fishing line you ever saw -- >except that it is wound around your neck and you're hanging by it. Some >researchers spend literally years trying to figure out "how they're >doin' it to us," only to wake up to the sad realization that "they" can >do just about whatever they want and justify it with some gob of >sophistry which the media will spin into a nice 30 second sound byte for >Sam and Myrtle to yawn at before they watch Jay Leno. After all, if the >judge perverts the law and the appeals courts look the other way, or >worse yet, remand and have the trial judge put a different color bow on >it, WHAT IS YOUR REMEDY? Trust me, you don't even want to think about >it. > >But Larry Becraft HAS to think about it. He's an attorney. He HAS to >believe we can make a difference by winning in the courts. And, when he >sees frantic, flawed theorizing mucking up his chances to WIN in court, >it has to drive him nuts! Personally I have my doubts that we can "win" >the WAR in the courts, but I greatly respect Larry Becraft because he's >a skilled warrior, is fighting his heart out and has won some major >BATTLES! > >So, if we can't "win" in the courts, is there ANY hope? I think winning >BATTLES in the courts is an important element if the WAR is to be won. >However, I feel that the battle for the minds and hearts of the people >is where the WAR will be won or lost. In this respect, I have mixed >feelings about something like "The Cooper File." Although I do feel we >should be careful to be as accurate and thorough as possible (and >certainly never just plain reckless -- which borders on dishonest, of >course), nonetheless the fact remains that the problems with law and >gov't are simply too massive, entrenched and camouflaged to allow for >nitpicking every strategy and every attack. Many, myself included, do >not believe it is possible to "play by the rules", much less "win" by >them, when 1) the rules are largely unknowable, 2) the rule makers >ignore, violate or change the rules as the game goes along and 3) the >rule makers engage in arbitrary violence, have virtually all the >firepower and largely control the dissemination of information to the >masses who constitute the bulwark of its "public policy". > >Hence, the value of even a flawed "Cooper File" may be found in its >potential to awaken and enrage large numbers of people. Even if they >are awakened by a bit of bad information, will they not possibly be set >upon a course which will lead them to find the general mass of hideous >corruption which is responsible, in the first place, for all the >"frantic theorizing"? After all, if I had given up on the >"patriot/tax/constitutionalist movement" because I was offended by >someone being wrong, rash or extreme, I would have packed it in a VERY >short way down the path. But the abuses are TOO real, the stench too >strong. I'm not offended by poor patriots who have "gone over the >edge," because I've seen and experienced what drove them there. > > >There are a good many things RIGHT with "The Cooper File." Let's use >them to wake up as many of our fellow Americans as we can. If we can >fix what's wrong with "The Cooper File," then let's get that done, by >all means, so that the important work of attorneys like Larry Becraft >and other researchers is not hampered. > >A major problem with this "movement" is that various factions have >significant differences in viewpoints, values and priorities, and this >understandably leads to strong differences in interpretation of certain >laws, circumstances and choices of strategy. Personally, I feel this >"problem" is our Achilles Heel. It needs to be addressed, but, sadly, >few of the leading researchers and warriors seem able to set aside their >differences long enough to make any sincere attempt to listen to each >other. Sadly, a lot of this is about economics. There is, frankly, >fierce competition out there for the limited (albeit growing) resource >of patriots' spendable income. After all, how are the researchers and >patriot/tax movement leaders supposed to support themselves? (Government >grants?) Are we to expect "competitors" to throw roses at each other? > >But think about it. If any ONE of the various groups or gurus was >winning consistently and setting repeatable precedents in the courts, >we'd all know about it in a few weeks and the whole WAR would be over in >a matter of months; the house of cards would tumble. But, contrary to >much of the hype, NO ONE IS WINNING CONSISTENTLY! Show me the tax >movement group whose members have ZERO liens and levies, who freely own >expensive homes, have extensive assets and hold significant positions >with major corporations which happily DO NOT WITHHOLD either income tax >or social security taxes from members pay. Yeah, like that group exists >and none of us have heard of it! > >So, WHAT THE HELL DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE WHO IS LEGALLY CORRECT? And >would that matter anyway, when we have all seen how corrupt the courts >are and how there is virtually no remedy, at least that the abused is >likely to see without squandering his life savings, if not his life >itself! What is needed is a larger, overall strategy to create the >public awareness essential to stopping the destruction of Liberty -- no >matter HOW each of us happens to define that term. > >Remember: things have gotten so out of hand in this society that we have >people working 2-3 days a week just to pay their taxes, and some of them >can't see anything more important to do than save the spotted owl, for >heaven's sake! > >My, my, all of that over Larry Becraft's comments. They are attached >below my name and I hope you will seriously consider what Larry has to >say. > >Harold Thomas > > >Dear Harold, > > Wayne Bentson is a friend of mine whom I have known for about 12 >years. He told me about his position regarding the Fed Alcohol Admin >several years ago and now it is obtaining circulation. Please answer >these questions: > > What case decided by the Supremes during the 30s found what >particular act unconstitutional? The original source materials Wayne >relied upon fails to mention that case, yet this is perhaps the most >critical aspect of that argument. > > The BATF was created in 1972 and thereafter, certain regs >applicable to the taxes BATF would administer were transferred to it. >The part of the Cooper memo which states that the IRS is the BATF is >from certain regs which were adopted by BATF. Rather than adopt whole >new rules, all it did was adopt existing IRS rules which mentioned the >IRS; the BATF simply stated that wherever IRS was mentioned, just simply >change IRS to BATF. This is what happened and people are taking things >out of context. > >There's more, but just check out these two problems. > > Larry Becraft >>Date: Fri, 23 May 1997 06:26:56 -0700 >>To: (Recipient list suppressed) >>From: Paul Andrew Mitchell [address in tool bar] >>Subject: Specific Questions for Mr. Lowell Becraft >> >>Hello Ron, >> >>No, I do not have Mr. Becraft's email >>address. >> >>I now wish to confront him for the >>following conduct of his, which I >>witnessed personally (with the >>exception of Point 9 below). >> >>Feel free to forward these questions >>directly to him, if and when you find >>his email address: >> >> >>1. Why did he write to the author of >> "The Federal Zone" and demand that the >> author stop selling that book? He alleged >> that it was "harming people." Did he >> mean to imply that other forms of tax >> protest were NOT harming people? >> >>2. Why did he and Wayne Bentson recommend >> that Eugene A. Burns retain a licensed >> bar member from Phoenix to defend Burns' >> trust against a grand jury subpoena, >> and do so with me listening on a conference >> call, when Burns had already retained a >> licensed bar member in James Everett? >> >>3. Why did he advise Eugene A. Burns that >> Burns did not have a right to a jury trial >> in that case, when FRCP Rule 38 specifically >> says that the right to trial by jury shall >> be preserved inviolate? >> >>4. In what other ways, if any, has Mr. Becraft >> interferred or otherwise obstructed the legal >> work I have done for clients around the >> country? In light of points 1 thru 3 above, >> I feel that this is not an inappropriate >> question, as well. >> >>5. Has Mr. Becraft slandered, or libeled, the >> author of "The Federal Zone" and/or unjustly >> criticized any of the work which is published >> in that book? Did Mr. Becraft obtain a copy >> of that book, without paying for that copy? >> Did Mr. Becraft ever read the book? The author >> has no record of any book order or payment from >> Mr. Becraft. >> >>6. Why did Mr. Becraft fail to answer the memo >> which the author of the "The Federal Zone" >> wrote to him concerning the all-important >> distinction between general federal laws, >> and federal municipal laws? >> >>7. Why did Mr. Becraft insist that the federal >> income tax is imposed on "aliens here, and >> citizens abroad," when the state Supreme Court >> in his home state had already ruled that there >> are two (2) classes of citizenship? >> >>8. Why does Mr. Becraft insist on retaining his >> bar license, when the historical record now >> proves that the original 13th Amendment was >> ratified, penalizing bar licensees with the >> loss of citizenship and disqualification from >> ever serving in any public office anywhere >> in America (e.g. "officer of the court")? >> >>9. What conduct of his caused Mr. Bill Medina in >> northern California to chastise Mr. Becraft >> so harshly? The conduct in question occurred >> in a federal court hearing, in a tax-related >> case, if I am not mistaken. >> >>10. Mr. Becraft, do you abuse alcohol? >> >> >>/s/ Paul Mitchell >>http://www.supremelaw.com ======================================================================== Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S. : Counselor at Law, federal witness email: [address in tool bar] : Eudora Pro 3.0.1 on Intel 586 CPU web site: http://www.supremelaw.com : library & law school registration ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776 : this is free speech, at its best Tucson, Arizona state : state zone, not the federal zone Postal Zone 85719/tdc : USPS delays first class w/o this ========================================================================
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