Time: Wed Oct 30 07:07:02 1996 To: Bill Utterback <butterb@connecti.com> From: Paul Andrew Mitchell [address in tool bar] Subject: Unwanted E-mail Cc: Bcc: Alfred Adask, Art Bell, Bill Van Mastrigt, Chris Wilder, dean, Electra, Jean-Pierre Weingarten, Joe Newman, Marcia A. Armstrong, Nancy Lord, Neil Nordbrock, Richard Ginn, Liberty Law, William Cooper Dear Bill, I grew very concerned when I asked him to remove me from his broadcast list, and he did nothing about it for what I considered an unacceptable amount of time. Then, when he finally did remove me from his list, I did continue to get his posts to lists we share, and I was too upset to notice the difference. I simply escalated until it became a crisis for someone at his end, and we all worked together to figure it out. If you want to call it harassment, that is your choice of words. When he first put me on his list, I asked him why he did not first ask my permission to do so, and he did not answer. When I asked him if he was spending federal funds at the CDC to be doing what he is doing, he did not answer. I do not think that the man is being straight with me. So, with that introduction to him, I did overreact when he did not remove my name more quickly from his private list. I take full responsibility for failing to distinguish his private posts from the ones he was posting to PIML. When I figured that out, I apologized to him, and he accepted. But, now there are the two remaining problems: why did he put me on his private broadcast list, which he feeds very VERY frequently? And does he spend the better portion of his working day feeding the Internet, using federal funds for same? I don't mean to be disloyal here, but I have some very serious questions about what the CDC does from day-to-day. I feel I have a right to know answers to these questions, particulary his decision to ignore my question as to why he put my email address on a very active broadcast schedule without first getting my permission. Disk space may be free for the CDC, but not for me. Finally, I once politely asked him to do "blind copies", to prevent long recipient lists in his email. He lapsed into bureau-speak about his not having software which will do that, LAN policy, and some other garbage. I asked him why he could not make local calls to the nearest ISP, and he came back with more bureau-speak about CDC policy, etc. etc. So, my question is this: is it CDC policy to underwrite his day-to-day activities feeding the Internet with the kinds of stories he posts on PIML and elsewhere, and does the CDC also underwrite the work required to screen incoming email for reposting on other such lists? If they receive federal funds, and we know that they do, what is their authority to spend such funds in this manner, if any? Every American has a right to know how federal funds are being spent, because this is our government. Do you agree, or do you not agree? I await your answer. Thank you. /s/ Paul Mitchell At 02:48 AM 10/30/96 -0600, you wrote: >Paul: > >Roger Cravens asked me to send you a note to explain a >misunderstanding. You have apparently asked him to stop sending >you unwanted e-mail and he says he is not sending e-mail to you. > >Roger does post a lot of stuff to PIML. If the header looks like >the one below, the message is not coming to you from Roger but is >coming to you from PIML. > >From: "Cravens, Roger D." <rbg3@CCDOSA1.EM.CDC.GOV> >To: "'piml'" <piml@mars.galstar.com> >Subject: piml] C-NEWS: Heritage Internet Update >Date: Tue, 29 Oct 96 14:11:00 EST > >If you want to discontinue receiving messages with headers like >the one above, the way to do it is to unsubscribe from PIML - >harassing Roger won't accomplish anything. > >Messages that Roger sends directly to individuals always have very >long headers like the one below. If the headers on your unwanted >messages do not look like the one below, then they are not coming >to you from Roger. > >To: "Blanton, Curtis" <cgb9@CCDDN1.EM.CDC.GOV>, > "Geathers, Sonya" <shg0@CCDDN1.EM.CDC.GOV>, > "Thomas, Alda E." <aet1@CCDOSA1.EM.CDC.GOV>, > "Pollard, Robert A." <rap3@CCDOSA1.EM.CDC.GOV>, > "'Barbara J. Beier'" <73622.1250@compuserve.com>, > "Tom S. (P)" <76233.2610@compuserve.com>, > "Anti-Prohibition Lg." <aal01@teleport.com>, > Agent326 <Agent326@aol.com> >To: arnie <alerma@dgs.dgsys.com>, amervote <amervote@americavote.com>, > "matthew.sadler" <balchain.com!matthew.sadler@chattanooga.net>, > "Hon. Bob Barr" <bbarr@hr.house.gov>, Bill Cheek <bcheek@cts.com>, > "bill.dunn" <bill.dunn@channel1.com>, Bob Hall <bobhall@telepath.com>, > "'bphipp (L)'" <bphipp@pernet.net>, butterb <butterb@connecti.com> >To: "Buddy Trader (PVT)" <bvtrader@mindspring.com>, > Bill Wells <bwells@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu>, cavitt <cavitt@juno.com>, > chuck44 <chuck44@juno.com>, David McGuire <davidmcg@oz.sunflower.org>, > David Crawford <dcrmatt@vnet.net>, Don Allen <dona@totcon.com>, > "'D.W.'" <DW@randomc.com>, eplurib <eplurib@megalinx.net>, > ewolfe <ewolfe@wnstar.com> >To: "gary.saffer" <gary.saffer@channel1.com>, Gayle Van Horn <gayle@grove.net>, > "'Harry W. Petree (P)'" <harpetree@infoave.net>, > "'William Cooper'" <harvest@whitemtns.com>, > Harvey Wysong <hwysong@atl.mindspring.com>, > JAQ57FORD <JAQ57FORD@aol.com>, Jill Cook <jcook@eagle.ca>, > JD <jd2@flash.net>, "'John Fulford'" <johnf@mail.emi.net>, > "'Robert Cooke (AOL)'" <kd4dpc@aol.com> >To: Larry Van Horn <larry@grove.net>, > Marc Chabot <marc.chabot@stat.pubnix.net>, > mbmartin <mbmartin@srasds.attmail.com>, mm505 <mm505@mindspring.com>, > Marvin Warren <mwarren@telepath.com>, > "W. K. (Bill) Gorman" <nitehawk@nethawk.com>, > Pa Research Guild <patriot@netaxs.com>, > Paul Andrew Mitchell [address in tool bar], > Patricia Neill <pnpj@db1.cc.rochester.edu> >To: RevCOAL <revcoal@pcnet.com>, "richard.dale" <richard.dale@juno.com>, > RightAway <RightAway@aol.com>, "Robby Noel (P)" <robnoel@primenet.com>, > "Rob Schofield (P)" <rosco@cyberia.com>, > Roger Sayles <rsayles@aol.com>, > "Hon. Paul Coverdell" <senator_coverdell@coverdell.senate.gov>, > "'Bill Funk'" <skypilot@starlink.com>, > "Carol A. Valentine" <SkyWriter@Public-Action.com> >To: "Scott Hudson (P/S)" <sphudson@mindspring.com>, > "'Rickey Stein'" <steinda@umdnj.edu>, "'M.W.'" <techno@mindspring.com>, > "'Microwave Rider'" <ticom@l0pht.com>, > Tom McKinney <TMckin4215@gnn.com>, > "'Kay Sheil (P)'" <vieamie@sound.net>, > "Collins, William D." <wdcollins@JAZZ.CYBERMEDIA.NET>, > "Patti Johnson (P)" <whitewolf@toad.net> >Subject: Liberty and use of force >Date: Mon, 28 Oct 96 08:31:00 EST > > >A voice of reason, >Bill Utterback > > >
Return to Table of Contents for
Supreme Law School: E-mail