Time: Wed Nov 13 19:12:02 1996 To: Harvey Wysong From: Paul Andrew Mitchell [address in tool bar] Subject: People v. United States Cc: Bcc: >Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 19:11:40 >To: John Burr >From: Paul Andrew Mitchell [address in tool bar] >Subject: People v. United States > >Dear John Edward, > >I will send to you immediately >what I do have here, under my >control. The Freedom Center >has failed to return my personal >belongings, including all the >backup ZIP disks which I wrote >when I was there, using the ZIP >drive I bought specifically for >that purpose. The ZIP drive sits >in Billings too. > >This means that the removal brief, >which was allowed by the Garfield >county judge, will need to be >scanned and sent to you in .BMP >or .PCX format. This I can do >right away; it is better than not >having it at all. > >The really big loss is the Notice >of Application for Intervention of >Right, which was based on a key >FOIA request and appeal, both of >which have failed to elicit the >requested documents, because we >already knew the answers to our >questions. The Memorandum of >Law in support of that Intervention >was the best single statement I have >written to date on the matters >now before us in People v. United States. > >I have a preliminary draft of this >Memorandum, but it now has the wrong >parties and other errors which were >corrected in the final version which >now is being held hostage in Billings. >Again, it is better than having nothing. > >One thing you could do is to send $100 >to The Freedom Center, and ask them to >send you the latest copies, either hard >or electronic, of the Intervention >documents I prepared and left up there. >Don't tell them you got this idea from me!! >You could say that you learned about it >by reading one of the two press releases >I wrote when I was up there. I just >yesterday re-located that release in my >gigantic email inbox, and it is now >back to its original format (.DOC). > >So, John Edward, if you want to jump in, >please bear with me as I dump my brains >all over your kitchen table, in what may >at first appear to be a jumble of disconnected >chess pieces and equally disconnected tactics. >The Holy Spirit has informed me that the white >supremacists and apartheid supporters at The >Freedom Center are now facing a real run for >their money, because I have made up my mind >to compete directly with them in every way >possible, by focusing my efforts on the >important case before us: People of the United >States of America ex relatione Paul Andrew >Mitchell versus the United States et alii, >including Does 1 thru 1000. > >To expedite things, please tell me at once >what email encoding(s) you can handle, and >I will remember to override my default as >needed; that default is BinHex, using >Eudora Pro Version 2.2(16) on a Pentium >with MS-DOS Version 6.22 and Windows >Version 3.11. Everything about my PC-clone >is very standard and vanilla; I keep it that >way to expedite technical support. > >Thanks. Are you ready to help with the helm? >The Ship of State is furling her sails again, >and we are underway. Thank God. > >/s/ Paul Mitchell > > > >At 03:37 PM 11/13/96 U, you wrote: >>======================================================================= >>LIBERTY LAW - CROSS THE BAR & MAKE YOUR PLEA - FIRST VIRTUAL COURT, USA >>Presiding JOP: Tom Clark, Constable: Robert Happy, Clerk: Kerry Rushing >>======================================================================= >>There is a formula for calculation of the inflation rate that is specified in >>statute...I also believe that it is accumulative since 1968 when the >>government totally debased the currency and took all the silver backing and >>silver out of the treasury. That is the point when the judges salary was >>diminished. This also means that there are ZERO Article III justices unless >>they are paid in specie or United States currency backed by gold or silver. I >>will try to locate the statute for you on this. >> >>Send me your brief for People v United States et al so I can look at what you >>have so far. >> >>John Edward >>------------------------------ >>Date: 11/13/96 10:42 AM >>To: John Burr >>From: libertylaw@www.ultimate.org >> >> >>John Edward, >> >>Excellent insights here. >> >>In People v. United States et al., >>would you recommend that we add >>these criteria as barriers to >>any candidates which C.J. Rehnquist >>might temporarily appoint to the >>3-judge panel which we have >>convened? Putting those criteria >>on the table is "only a brief away." >>Do you want to take a stab at >>drafting such a brief, publishing >>it here, and allowing me to make my >>usual edits? This would be an >>excellent example for everyone else >>on the list. As we say down here >>in the arid zone: GOFER IT! >>("fer" is "to carry" in Latin). >> >>I am standing by. >> >>/s/ Paul Mitchell >> >>attachment: "Karma and the Federal Courts" >> >> >>At 09:38 AM 11/13/96 U, you wrote: >>>======================================================================= >>>LIBERTY LAW - CROSS THE BAR & MAKE YOUR PLEA - FIRST VIRTUAL COURT, USA >>>Presiding JOP: Tom Clark, Constable: Robert Happy, Clerk: Kerry Rushing >>>======================================================================= >>> >>>------------------------------ >>>From: libertylaw@www.ultimate.org >>> >>>======================================================================= >>>LIBERTY LAW - CROSS THE BAR & MAKE YOUR PLEA - FIRST VIRTUAL COURT, USA >>>Presiding JOP: Tom Clark, Constable: Robert Happy, Clerk: Kerry Rushing >>>======================================================================= >>>all federal judges are disqualified to >>> preside, since they all currently pay income taxes >>> on their compensation, in direct violation of >>> Article III; Chief Justice Rehnquist is struggling >>> with a massive legal conundrum.. >>> >>> >>>/s/ Paul Mitchell >>> >>>John replies: Also to be noted that all judges, justices who are currently >>>paid in FRNs are having their compensation deminished by the fact that >>>inflation of the rehypothicated international debt-credit obligations reduce >>>their effective value. Only judges and justices who are compensated with the >>>lawful money [coin of the realm] of the United States of America as specifed >>>in the coinage act of 1793 and 31 USC Sec. 5112, meet the qualification of >>>non-diminshed compensation. Justices of Article III courts must also meet >>the >>>following: >>> >>>Appointed by the Presidenet with the advise and consent of the Senate. [I >>lot >>>of federal commisioners and USDC judges meet this one qualification] >>> >>>For a life tenure. >>> >>>Office held in good behavior. [Most of the crminals in black bat suits fail >>>this one!!] >>> >>>So diminishing of compensation through taxes is just one way their pay falls >>>short of the art III criteria. >>> >>>John Edward >>> >>>At 01:00 AM 11/10/96 -0800, you wrote: >>>>======================================================================= >>>>LIBERTY LAW - CROSS THE BAR & MAKE YOUR PLEA - FIRST VIRTUAL COURT, USA >>>>Presiding JOP: Tom Clark, Constable: Robert Happy, Clerk: Kerry Rushing >>>>======================================================================= >>>>I have had great difficulty in figuring out the fourteenth amendment and >>>>how it fits in the the dual citizenship that is required to be "sovereign >>>>people" as described in great detail in the Dred Scott case. I think I >>>>have finally got it thanks to a great book that unfortunately I do not >>>>"own", but have the use of until I can find one at a old book store and >>>>shall because of the my "greed" remain unnamed at present and shall be >>>>named "Book". >>>> >>>>The Dred Scott case explains in great detail that you must first be a >>>>"citizen of a State" and therefore if of the correct class of citizen, you >>>>are a "citizen of the United States". I could not figure out the how the >>>>fourteenth amendment sidestepped this provision, as on the first glance, it >>>>appears to be correct, which I absolutely knew was impossible. >>>> >>>>Its wording is as follows: >>>> >>>> >>>> Amendment XIV >>>> [1868] >>>> >>>>"Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and >>>>subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and >>>>of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law >>>>which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United >>>>States;nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or >>>>property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its >>>>jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws." >>>> >>>>In 1866 Statutes at Large chapter 31, >>>> >>>>"That all persons born in the United States and not subject to any foreign >>>>power, excluding Indians not; taxed, are hereby declared to be citizens of >>>>the United States;" >>>> >>>>1) Al persons born ....in the United States - 14th amendment and declared >>>>by Congress. >>>>2) All persons naturalized in the United States - 14th amendment and >>>>declared by Congress >>>>3) are citizens of the United States - 14th amendment >>>>4) are citizens ...of the State wherein they reside - 14th amendment >>>>5) Who is a citizen of "the State" wherein they reside? In Dred Scott case >>>>the wording is citizen of "a State". Now comes the "Book" with a >>>>definition of "the State". >>>> >>>>>From the "Book" - [under the heading of state] "Papal States.--the States. >>>>1. [Gt. Brit. & Canada] The United States. 2. Formerly, the Netherlands; >>>>the United Provinces." >>>> >>>>>From this I would be able to conclude that "the States" is the Papal >>>>States. Above this is the heading of state is the following: >>>>"States of the Church, a part of Central Italy which, before the >>>>unification of Italy in 1870, was under the sovereignty of the Pope. It >>>>included Rome, the Romagna, Umbria, the March of Ancona, and the towns of >>>>Bologna, Perugia, and Vierbo; capital, Rome. Compare DONATION OF PEPIN." >>>> >>>>[Interesting time in that 1871, 1874, and 1878 are the formation of a >>>>corporate government [corporation(s)] >>>> >>>>in the District of Columbia] >>>> >>>>>From the "Book" >>>>"Donation of Pepin", the grant by Pepin, king of the Franks, father of >>>>Charlemagne, of Ravenna, Emilia, and other territory captured from the >>>>Lombards in 755." >>>> >>>>It just goes on and on. >>>> >>>>Treaties with Italy, 1869. s/l Volume 18 part 2 pg 439 - One of the >>>>Parties was the Grand Cordon of his Order of the Saints Maurice and >>>>Lazarus. Another complete story, but this is not the plain Jane >>>>government. >>>>>From the "Book" >>>> >>>>Cordon is a ornamental lace, cord or ribbon worn to secure something in >>>>place, for adornment, as an indication of rank, or used as a heraldic >>>>bearing. The cord worn as a girdle by a Franciscan friar. >>>> >>>>Orders - from the "Book" - St. Maurice and St. Lazarus (10/6 1424) Amadeus >>>>VI.; service to the state, especially charities; white enameled cross >>>>botone against an S-pointed green cross. >>>> >>>>And again in Treaties with Italy, 1869 s/l Volume 18 part 2 page 439 we see >>>>in Article I "There shall be between the territories of the high >>>>contracting parties a reciprocal liberty of commerce and navigation." What >>>>happened to the words of Untied States of American and Italy here????? >>>> >>>>Article II >>>>"The citizens of each of the high contracting parties shall have liberty to >>>>travel in "the States" and territories of the other territories of the >>>>other, to carry on trade, wholesale and retail, to hire and occupy houses >>>>and warehouses, to employ agents of their choice, and generally to do >>>>anything incident to or necessary for trade, upon the same terms as the >>>>natives of the country, submitting themselves to the laws there >>>>established." >>>> >>>>Article XII >>>>"The high contracting parties agree that , in the unfortunate event of a >>>>war between them, the private property of their respective citizens and >>>>subjects, with the exception of contraband of war, shall be exempt from >>>>capture or seizure, on the high seas or elsewhere, by the armed vessels or >>>>by the military forces of either party; it being understood that this >>>>exemption shall not extend to vessels and their cargoes which may attempt >>>>to tenter a port blockaded by the naval forces of either party.\ >>>> >>>>This sure reads to me as though the "high contracting parties" are >>>>different than the "party". This reads very different from the actual >>>>citizens of each country or "State". And "high Contracting parties" does >>>>not seem to be used in contracts with other countries! Why? >>>> >>>>The "high contracting parties" is the Pope and his folks. So much more on >>>>this in the treaties that points as more prima facie evident of same. >>>> >>>>Now we add the "Office of Governor" and the legatees, legate and walla, the >>>>Roman Catholic Church again. It is all fitting. >>>> >>>>Next we add a certificate of birth, that is changed from the form that >>>>parents fill out on the "worksheet" in a previous post, to Birth >>>>Certificate from Bouvier 1843 "and those given to aliens that they have >>>>been naturalized" >>>> >>>>And for a little spice, again from the "Book" >>>>Legal - a legal reversion See reversion >>>> >>>>Reversion - The right of redemption of an estate that is security for a >>>>debt or judgment. The residue of an estate left in the grantor [England? >>>>or the sovereign - Pope?], to commence in possession at a determination of >>>>a particular estate created by him. The returning of lands to the >>>>possession of the grantor or of his heirs, on the determination of a >>>>particular estate created by him. >>>> >>>>We be in Deep do do folks, >>>> >>>>We now have "the State", "this state", "other state" and "another state". >>>>This is getting difficult to tell who is on first. "original States" and >>>>"several States" are seemingly the only good ones out there! >>>> >>>>I would say a prayer tonight, but I don't think in any manner with the >>>>"Vatican" in mind though. >>>> >>>>the best >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>Ralph Kermit, Winterrowd >>>>citizen of the United States nunc pro tunc >>>>Citizen of the State of Kansas (equal footing with the original States) >>>>domiciled in the Territory of Alaska >>>>Born of natural born parents of the Posterity >>>>Sovereign State in Fact >>>> >>>>If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better >>>>than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not >>>>your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May >>>>your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget ye were our >>>>countrymen. >>>> Samuel Adams >>>> >>>>Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains >>>>and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may >>>>take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death. >>>> Patrick Henry: Speech in the Virginia Convention, March 23,1775 >>>> >>>>My Homepage is: http://www.alaska.net/~winter/jefferson.html >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>>=========================================================== >>>Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S.: pmitch@primenet.com >>> >>>ship to: c/o 2509 N. 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