Time: Wed Nov 13 19:12:02 1996
To: Harvey Wysong
From: Paul Andrew Mitchell [address in tool bar]
Subject: People v. United States
Cc: 
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>Date: Wed, 13 Nov 1996 19:11:40
>To: John Burr
>From: Paul Andrew Mitchell [address in tool bar]
>Subject: People v. United States
>
>Dear John Edward,
>
>I will send to you immediately
>what I do have here, under my
>control.  The Freedom Center
>has failed to return my personal
>belongings, including all the
>backup ZIP disks which I wrote
>when I was there, using the ZIP
>drive I bought specifically for
>that purpose.  The ZIP drive sits
>in Billings too. 
>
>This means that the removal brief,
>which was allowed by the Garfield
>county judge, will need to be
>scanned and sent to you in .BMP
>or .PCX format.  This I can do
>right away;  it is better than not
>having it at all.
>
>The really big loss is the Notice
>of Application for Intervention of
>Right, which was based on a key
>FOIA request and appeal, both of
>which have failed to elicit the
>requested documents, because we
>already knew the answers to our
>questions.  The Memorandum of
>Law in support of that Intervention
>was the best single statement I have
>written to date on the matters
>now before us in People v. United States.
>
>I have a preliminary draft of this
>Memorandum, but it now has the wrong
>parties and other errors which were
>corrected in the final version which
>now is being held hostage in Billings.
>Again, it is better than having nothing.
>
>One thing you could do is to send $100
>to The Freedom Center, and ask them to
>send you the latest copies, either hard
>or electronic, of the Intervention
>documents I prepared and left up there.
>Don't tell them you got this idea from me!!
>You could say that you learned about it
>by reading one of the two press releases
>I wrote when I was up there.  I just
>yesterday re-located that release in my
>gigantic email inbox, and it is now
>back to its original format (.DOC).  
>
>So, John Edward, if you want to jump in,
>please bear with me as I dump my brains
>all over your kitchen table, in what may
>at first appear to be a jumble of disconnected
>chess pieces and equally disconnected tactics.
>The Holy Spirit has informed me that the white
>supremacists and apartheid supporters at The
>Freedom Center are now facing a real run for
>their money, because I have made up my mind
>to compete directly with them in every way
>possible, by focusing my efforts on the
>important case before us:  People of the United
>States of America ex relatione Paul Andrew
>Mitchell versus the United States et alii,
>including Does 1 thru 1000.
>
>To expedite things, please tell me at once
>what email encoding(s) you can handle, and
>I will remember to override my default as
>needed;  that default is BinHex, using
>Eudora Pro Version 2.2(16) on a Pentium
>with MS-DOS Version 6.22 and Windows
>Version 3.11.  Everything about my PC-clone
>is very standard and vanilla;  I keep it that
>way to expedite technical support.
>
>Thanks.  Are you ready to help with the helm?
>The Ship of State is furling her sails again,
>and we are underway.  Thank God.
>
>/s/ Paul Mitchell
>
>
>
>At 03:37 PM 11/13/96 U, you wrote:
>>=======================================================================
>>LIBERTY LAW - CROSS THE BAR & MAKE YOUR PLEA - FIRST VIRTUAL COURT, USA
>>Presiding JOP: Tom Clark, Constable: Robert Happy, Clerk: Kerry Rushing
>>=======================================================================
>>There is a formula for calculation of the inflation rate that is specified in
>>statute...I also believe that it is accumulative since 1968 when the
>>government totally debased the currency and took all the silver backing and
>>silver out of the treasury.  That is the point when the judges salary was
>>diminished.  This also means that there are ZERO Article III justices unless
>>they are paid in specie or United States currency backed by gold or silver.  I
>>will try to locate the statute for you on this.
>>
>>Send me your brief for  People v United States et al so I can look at what you
>>have so far.
>>
>>John Edward
>>------------------------------
>>Date: 11/13/96 10:42 AM
>>To: John Burr
>>From: libertylaw@www.ultimate.org
>>
>>
>>John Edward,
>>
>>Excellent insights here.
>>
>>In People v. United States et al.,
>>would you recommend that we add
>>these criteria as barriers to
>>any candidates which C.J. Rehnquist
>>might temporarily appoint to the
>>3-judge panel which we have
>>convened?  Putting those criteria
>>on the table is "only a brief away."
>>Do you want to take a stab at
>>drafting such a brief, publishing
>>it here, and allowing me to make my
>>usual edits?  This would be an 
>>excellent example for everyone else
>>on the list.  As we say down here
>>in the arid zone:  GOFER IT!
>>("fer" is "to carry" in Latin).
>>
>>I am standing by.
>>
>>/s/ Paul Mitchell
>>
>>attachment:  "Karma and the Federal Courts"
>>
>>
>>At 09:38 AM 11/13/96 U, you wrote:
>>>=======================================================================
>>>LIBERTY LAW - CROSS THE BAR & MAKE YOUR PLEA - FIRST VIRTUAL COURT, USA
>>>Presiding JOP: Tom Clark, Constable: Robert Happy, Clerk: Kerry Rushing
>>>=======================================================================
>>>
>>>------------------------------
>>>From: libertylaw@www.ultimate.org
>>>
>>>=======================================================================
>>>LIBERTY LAW - CROSS THE BAR & MAKE YOUR PLEA - FIRST VIRTUAL COURT, USA
>>>Presiding JOP: Tom Clark, Constable: Robert Happy, Clerk: Kerry Rushing
>>>=======================================================================
>>>all federal judges are disqualified to
>>>      preside, since they all currently pay income taxes
>>>      on their compensation, in direct violation of 
>>>      Article III;  Chief Justice Rehnquist is struggling
>>>      with a massive legal conundrum..
>>>
>>>
>>>/s/ Paul Mitchell
>>>
>>>John replies:  Also to be noted that all judges, justices who are currently
>>>paid in FRNs are having their compensation deminished by the fact that
>>>inflation of the rehypothicated international debt-credit obligations reduce
>>>their effective value.  Only judges and justices who are compensated with the
>>>lawful money [coin of the realm] of the United States of America as specifed
>>>in the coinage act of 1793 and 31 USC Sec. 5112, meet the qualification of
>>>non-diminshed compensation.  Justices of Article III courts must also meet
>>the
>>>following:
>>>
>>>Appointed by the Presidenet with the advise and consent of the Senate.  [I
>>lot
>>>of federal commisioners and USDC judges meet this one qualification]
>>>
>>>For a life tenure.
>>>
>>>Office held in good behavior. [Most of the crminals in black bat suits fail
>>>this one!!]
>>>
>>>So diminishing of compensation through taxes is just one way their pay falls
>>>short of the art III criteria.
>>>
>>>John Edward
>>>
>>>At 01:00 AM 11/10/96 -0800, you wrote:
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>>>>LIBERTY LAW - CROSS THE BAR & MAKE YOUR PLEA - FIRST VIRTUAL COURT, USA
>>>>Presiding JOP: Tom Clark, Constable: Robert Happy, Clerk: Kerry Rushing
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>>>>I have had great difficulty in figuring out the fourteenth amendment and
>>>>how it fits in the the dual citizenship that is required to be "sovereign
>>>>people" as described in great detail in the Dred Scott case.  I think I
>>>>have finally got it thanks to a great book that unfortunately I do not
>>>>"own", but have the use of until I can find one at a old book store and
>>>>shall because of the my "greed" remain unnamed at present and shall be
>>>>named "Book".
>>>>
>>>>The Dred Scott case explains in great detail that you must first be a
>>>>"citizen of a State" and therefore if of the correct class of citizen, you
>>>>are a "citizen of the United States".  I could not figure out the how the
>>>>fourteenth amendment sidestepped this provision, as on the first glance, it
>>>>appears to be correct, which I absolutely knew was impossible.
>>>>
>>>>Its wording is as follows:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                                Amendment XIV
>>>>                                    [1868]
>>>>
>>>>"Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and
>>>>subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and
>>>>of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law
>>>>which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United
>>>>States;nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or
>>>>property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its
>>>>jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
>>>>
>>>>In 1866 Statutes at Large chapter 31,
>>>>
>>>>"That all persons born in the United States and not subject to any foreign
>>>>power, excluding Indians not; taxed, are hereby declared to be citizens of
>>>>the United States;"
>>>>
>>>>1)  Al persons born ....in the United States - 14th amendment and declared
>>>>by Congress.
>>>>2)  All persons naturalized in the United States - 14th amendment and
>>>>declared by Congress
>>>>3)  are citizens of the United States - 14th amendment
>>>>4)  are citizens ...of the State wherein they reside - 14th amendment
>>>>5) Who is a citizen of "the State" wherein they reside?  In Dred Scott case
>>>>the wording is citizen of "a State".  Now comes the "Book" with a
>>>>definition of "the State".
>>>>
>>>>>From the "Book" - [under the heading of state] "Papal States.--the States.
>>>>1. [Gt. Brit. & Canada] The United States.  2. Formerly, the Netherlands;
>>>>the United Provinces."
>>>>
>>>>>From this I would be able to conclude that "the States" is the Papal
>>>>States.  Above this is the heading of state is the following:
>>>>"States of the Church, a part of Central Italy which, before the
>>>>unification of Italy in 1870, was under the sovereignty of the Pope.  It
>>>>included Rome, the Romagna, Umbria, the March of Ancona, and the towns of
>>>>Bologna, Perugia, and Vierbo;  capital, Rome.  Compare DONATION OF PEPIN."
>>>>
>>>>[Interesting time in that 1871, 1874, and 1878 are the formation of a
>>>>corporate government [corporation(s)]
>>>>
>>>>in the District of Columbia]
>>>>
>>>>>From the "Book"
>>>>"Donation of Pepin", the grant by Pepin, king of the Franks, father of
>>>>Charlemagne, of Ravenna, Emilia, and other territory captured from the
>>>>Lombards in 755."
>>>>
>>>>It just goes on and on.
>>>>
>>>>Treaties with Italy, 1869. s/l Volume 18 part 2 pg 439 -  One of the
>>>>Parties was the Grand Cordon of his Order of the Saints Maurice and
>>>>Lazarus.  Another complete story, but this is not the plain Jane
>>>>government.
>>>>>From the "Book"
>>>>
>>>>Cordon is a ornamental lace, cord or ribbon worn to secure something in
>>>>place, for adornment, as an indication of rank, or used as a heraldic
>>>>bearing.  The cord worn as a girdle by a Franciscan friar.
>>>>
>>>>Orders - from the "Book" - St. Maurice and St. Lazarus (10/6 1424) Amadeus
>>>>VI.; service to the state, especially charities; white enameled cross
>>>>botone against an S-pointed green cross.
>>>>
>>>>And again in Treaties with Italy, 1869 s/l Volume 18 part 2 page 439 we see
>>>>in Article I "There shall be between the territories of the high
>>>>contracting parties a reciprocal liberty of commerce and navigation."  What
>>>>happened to the words of Untied States of American and Italy here?????
>>>>
>>>>Article II
>>>>"The citizens of each of the high contracting parties shall have liberty to
>>>>travel in "the States" and territories of the other territories of the
>>>>other, to carry on trade, wholesale and retail, to hire and occupy houses
>>>>and warehouses, to employ agents of their choice, and generally to do
>>>>anything incident to or necessary for trade, upon the same terms as the
>>>>natives of the country, submitting themselves to the laws there
>>>>established."
>>>>
>>>>Article XII
>>>>"The high contracting parties agree that , in the unfortunate event of a
>>>>war between them, the private property of their respective citizens and
>>>>subjects, with the exception of contraband of war, shall be exempt from
>>>>capture or seizure, on the high seas or elsewhere, by the armed vessels or
>>>>by the military forces of either party;  it being understood that this
>>>>exemption shall not extend to vessels and their cargoes which may attempt
>>>>to tenter a port blockaded by the naval forces of either party.\
>>>>
>>>>This sure reads to me as though the "high contracting parties" are
>>>>different than the "party".  This reads very different from the actual
>>>>citizens of each country or "State".  And "high Contracting parties" does
>>>>not seem to be used in contracts with other countries!  Why?
>>>>
>>>>The "high contracting parties" is the Pope and his folks.  So much more on
>>>>this in the treaties that points as more prima facie evident of same.
>>>>
>>>>Now we add the "Office of Governor" and the legatees, legate and walla, the
>>>>Roman Catholic Church again.  It is all fitting.
>>>>
>>>>Next we add a certificate of birth, that is changed from the form that
>>>>parents fill out on the "worksheet" in a previous post, to Birth
>>>>Certificate from Bouvier 1843 "and those given to aliens that they have
>>>>been naturalized"
>>>>
>>>>And for a little spice, again from the "Book"
>>>>Legal - a legal reversion See reversion
>>>>
>>>>Reversion - The right of redemption of an estate that is security for a
>>>>debt or judgment.  The residue of an estate left in the grantor [England?
>>>>or the sovereign - Pope?], to commence in possession at a determination of
>>>>a particular estate created by him.  The returning of lands to the
>>>>possession of the grantor or of his heirs, on the determination of a
>>>>particular estate created by him.
>>>>
>>>>We be in Deep do do folks,
>>>>
>>>>We now have "the State", "this state", "other state" and "another state".
>>>>This is getting difficult to tell who is on first.  "original States" and
>>>>"several States" are seemingly the only good ones out there!
>>>>
>>>>I would say a prayer tonight, but I don't think in any manner with the
>>>>"Vatican" in mind though.
>>>>
>>>>the best
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Ralph Kermit, Winterrowd
>>>>citizen of the United States nunc pro tunc
>>>>Citizen of the State of Kansas (equal footing with the original States)
>>>>domiciled in the Territory of Alaska
>>>>Born of natural born parents of the Posterity
>>>>Sovereign State in Fact
>>>>
>>>>If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better
>>>>than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not
>>>>your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May
>>>>your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget ye were our
>>>>countrymen.
>>>>                Samuel Adams
>>>>
>>>>Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains
>>>>and slavery?  Forbid it, Almighty God!  I know not what course others may
>>>>take, but as for me, give me liberty, or give me death.
>>>>        Patrick Henry:  Speech in the Virginia Convention, March 23,1775
>>>>
>>>>My Homepage is:  http://www.alaska.net/~winter/jefferson.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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