Posted by Man of Reason on September 01, 1998 at 09:23:33:
In Reply to: How I view other opinions posted by Shane Hanson on August 31, 1998 at 16:57:16:
: You know I have sometimes wondered what it would be like if we could bring our Founding Fathers to our present day, what would they say, what would they do, I think ALL of us would be in for a rude awakening.
: It hasn't been but in the last 15 years that the proof need, to support our theories of a corrupt government, has come to light. And that proof has only come about because of hard work of people who have been involved in this work for 20, 30, and even 40 years. It was thier trial and error that has brought us to the point that we are at today. Many people have sufferd to bring us what little we do know and there is still much to be discovered yet. To throw out every unsupported opinion I come across would be negligence on my part. Yet I do not allow that opinion to intermingle itself with fact.
: The purpose of the posting "Does our governmet still represent and serve State Citizens???" was to bring about a conclusion in this topic in my mind and to stir up some good consructive thought. At present I am trying to research anything that would deal with this subject, incuding all references posted here, but have have not found any good conclusive evidence for or against. Therefore leaving it suspended in the area of theory and I am sure one day someone with be able to find evidence to disprove it or support it.
: I would find it a relief if it were disproven, it would mean that the constitutional prosses setup by our Founding Fathers are still in tact and working for us. But if this theory is proven to be of some substance, well, I guess the actions nessecary to correct the problem is quite obvious.
: And once again I would mension what would our Founding Fathers do. I think that once we begin to look at it from there point of view we may yet begin to find more answers that questions.
: A fellow laborer in the work,
: Shane Hanson
Your approach is a wise one, you will not regret choosing it. I have found more evidence supporting the conclusion that the government is running as it should than to the contrary. Granted, the people have allowed the Federal government to stray into areas where they probably have no business being, but that is a political problem, not a legal one. It probably won't be fixed until the populace at large realizes that the government isn't the answer to every problem that comes along. No one can make life risk free for everyone.
I would add one note of caution, and that would be to beware of relying heavily on 'what the founding fathers would do', as any conclusion in that regard will necessarily contain a large dose of opinion. The founding fathers were a large group, holding rather diverse opinions on almost every topic contained in the Constitution. It is not difficult to find a quote by someone involved in the process to support just about any side of a debate about 'what they meant'. They realized that they couldn't cover every circumstance that might come along, so they wrote broad guidelines and a means of both interpreting and changing them as a part of the Constitution. Some of the 'core principles' pointed to by many are not terribly applicable, or have been circumvented in one manner or another. They will likely remain that way until things fall apart, or the populace gets involved enough to change them.
Keep researching and educate your neighbors.
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