Re: "Religious Objector" Response Letter from SSA


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Posted by Two Cities on September 19, 1997 at 14:16:03:

In Reply to: "Religious Objector" Response Letter from SSA posted by The Free Marketeer on September 15, 1997 at 05:41:49:

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Sovereign Individuals offer Private Contract Trusts for sale.
Trustees are sovereign individuals, presumably operating in the
free market. Trustees are total strangers. Trusts as stated (PCT),
not tested in the court system, at least they don't say.

Are there no challenges to these trusts?
Do they only hold already 'invisible' assets efficiently?
What about automobiles, boats, stocks, bonds, real estate,
some of which are enumerated in several instances, and
draw severe attention to themselves if the numbers are
removed (automobile license plates, non-payment property taxes)

A trust (irrevocable) withstood a property challenge
in Idaho. (it is not clear if this was a PCT trust, but
they did pay property taxes)

IN THE DISTRICT COURT
OF THE SEVENTH
JUDICIAL DISTRICT OF
THE STATE OF IDAHO, IN
AND FOR THE COUNTY OF
MADISON

Case No. CV-96-42
Dated this 16th day of July, 1997
And this information is not from an official transcript.

It appears that the 'no longer interested' party did not
have anything that approached the powers delegated to the
managing director in the above mentioned PCT trust outlines.

But the 'no longer interested' party did perhaps have an
HONEST relationship with the trustee.

7. Do the PCT trustees defend.
8. Have any such defenses been raised in the past.
9. Trustee = sovereign
10. Managing director = moderate ignorance = not sovereign
but DID have a property interest, and wishes to enjoy
benefits at arms length, and avoid probate.
11. Trustee = stranger
12. Sovereign = honest man?
13. Stranger = honest man?
14. Trustee = honest man?
15. Enforcable actions available against sovereign?
16. Trustee = man of means?
17. Trustee = poor stranger?
18. Remedies for trustees breach of contract.
19. If the trustee is so 'capable' that he can ward off
government, what recourse does the manager have against
a potentially dishonest but capable trustee.
20. From the frying pan into the fire?

21. I SAW NOTHING THAT COULD BE VIEWED AS REASONABLE
SAFEGUARDS AGAINST STRANGER TRUSTEES GAINING CONTROL OF THE
CONTENT OF THE TRUST AND USING IT IN A SELF INTERESTED WAY.
22. Is John D. Rockefeller a sovereign?
23. Is Ted Kennedy a sovereign?
24. Is Alan Greenspan a sovereign?
25. Are some sovereigns more sovereign than other sovereigns?

26. What's the difference? Costs of defending paid
to the capable sovereign stranger. Or current rents paid
to the current enforcer.
27. Peace of mind, and who you feed?
28. Which may be a worthy goal until SLTIC
(Sovereign Legion of Trustee Interest Compliance) arrives
on the scene.
29. Is the IMF sovereign?
30. Does each individual require individual court competence
commensurate with the interests at stake?




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