Posted by Dean Worley on April 04, 1998 at 23:58:01:
In Reply to: Re: Deeds REPONSE-Any experiences with Allodials? posted by donovan on January 14, 1998 at 12:52:23:
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: : : : Hope nobody minds my deleting the original question for expediency:
: : : : 1) If you provide your e-mail address, I'll e-mail
: : : : you directly with the name of a fella out west
: : : : that deals with this type of info..he's super
: : : : busy but knows about all the de factor vs de jure
: : : : instruments dealing with "property."I hesitate
: : : : to put his phone number/address out on inet w/o
: : : : his permission, etc.
: : : : Also: Surely some of these groups that deal
: : : : with allodials/land patents and such would probably
: : : : know. Search on these topics and some of these
: : : : groups are bound to come up.
: : : : Ann
: : : The search was informative. Thanks.
: : : Municipalities are perhaps raising the land patent
: : : issues at time of incorporation, and at all times
: : : subsequent in the event of annexations, thereby
: : : establishing their PARAMOUNT interest in the land
: : : under their "jurisdiction".Any additional pointers
: : : are always welcome. A YES vote in an annexation
: : : election, is perhaps akin to a feudal oath of fealty.
: : : Does anyone know.
: : : Property transfers that do not transfer the interest in
: : : the land patent, such as warranty deeds, deeds of trust or
: : : other instruments may only transfer the illusion of
: : : color of title, keeping the patent holder as the
: : : true owner, and entitled to his fief.
: : COMMENTS:
: : Good info on deeds..agrees with concepts of what I have also read on this topic.
: : The real question is: Does anybody have first-hand experience with actuallly filing
: : a land patent/allodial deed on their property and having it be "effective" with
: : the local taxing authorities? I've not heard of suceess story in Texas, although heard
: : (stories) in another state who supposedly got a "you're exempt" letter back from them...
: : wish I had kept details but cannot confirm.
: : My supposition is that it (may) help/at least delay with the "land grab", by "biospheres"
: : and "Heritage Rivers", etc. (per a land patent researcher I know)etc.
: : FYI: Just talked with a fella the other day (here in Texas) whose land had NOT been "rendered"
: : but they found him anyway and put a lien on his property for not paying property taxes. He's
: : trying to work on obtaining allodial deed, etc. Any success stories..please tell us.
: : Obviously, my personal belief is that property taxes are the worse of all taxes, since
: : regardless of what "net profit" or "income" you have, or you citizenship status, so
: : those property taxes keep going up and up,and have nothing whatsoever to do with your
: : "cash flow." HOPE TO GET SOME MORE POSTS ON THIS TOPIC.
: : WHat's youre experiences..let us know...I'll share my experience
: : when I have them..good or bad.
: : Ann
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