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From: Paul Andrew Mitchell [address in tool bar]
Subject: L&J: SLS: Manufacturer's Statement of Origin
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>>How does one go about having one's automobile personally owned
>>and personally drivable, without having the state's prescribed
>>registration tags on it?
See my earlier posts about getting the MSO from the state,
and exploiting their silence, via estoppel. Then, you
go into your state court of general jurisdiction, and
proceed to quiet title to the car or truck. Bear in mind,
the state will probably scuttle the case, because it
represents such a negative precedent for their MSO scheme.
Take California, for example. Multiply the number of
registered cars and trucks times the average annual
registration fee. Then, take a good look at the quality
of the personnel running the DMV local offices. That is
a cash cow, like no others you will ever see: high dollar
intake, very low overhead (like insurance companies).
You asked, and this is my answer: Quiet the Title
(read "Quiet the dispute over the title to [anything].")
Final judgments in Quiet Title actions are enforceable
in any Union state.
Confer at "Quiet Title" in Corpus Juris, Words and
Phrases, and American Jurisprudence, for starters.
This is a very old judicial proceeding.
/s/ Paul Mitchell
http://www.supremelaw.com
At 01:20 PM 7/21/97 -0700, you wrote:
>21 Jul 1997 04:53:37 -0400 Karl Kleinpaste <karl@jprc.com> wrote:
>>This is one of those issues that vexes me badly.
>>
>>Paul Andrew Mitchell [address in tool bar] writes:
>>> When you register your car the first time, the dealer conveys the
>>> Manufacturer's Statement of Origin ("MSO") to the state. This gives
>>> the state a legal interest in the car.
>>
>>How does this interest arise? That is, fine, so the dealer sends MSO
>>to the state. How does this manufacture state's ownership?
>
>I think it creates a presumption that you are either 1) a
>fiction incapable of owning property at law; or 2) engaged in
>privileged use of the state's highways, ie using it as place
>of business by franchise rather than as a common way by right.
>
>This is just a guess.
>
>>> The whole thing is a revenue scheme for the state government. For
>>> proof, try to obtain the original MSO for your car or truck. The
>>> request will put the state in a big bind, because they will not want
>>> to admit that they have it in the first place.
>>
>>So... How does one go about having one's automobile personally owned
>>and personally drivable, without having the state's prescribed
>>registration tags on it? It's the practical question: How do I avoid
>>getting stopped, and having my car seized, any time I pass a cop?
>
>As to this, I haven't a clue.
>
>--
>
>Steve Washam Walla Walla, Washington sew@valint.net
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