Time: Tue May 27 19:21:11 1997 by primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA18466; Tue, 27 May 1997 12:16:24 -0700 (MST) id OAA27797; Tue, 27 May 1997 14:59:32 -0400 (EDT) id OAA27786; Tue, 27 May 1997 14:59:21 -0400 (EDT) id AA03947; Tue, 27 May 1997 14:57:28 -0400 by usr02.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id LAA22503; Tue, 27 May 1997 11:28:20 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 14:04:28 -0700 To: Roger Cravens <ke4yqz@mindspring.com> From: Paul Andrew Mitchell [address in tool bar] Subject: SNET: Remove My Name References: <3.0.1.16.19970527130819.367fea5a@pop.primenet.com> <3.0.1.32.19970527133259.006f4864@pop.mindspring.com> <338A7B45@SmtpOut.em.cdc.gov> -> SearchNet's SNETNEWS Mailing List Mister Cravens, No draw! Thousands of American soldiers have died. You call that a draw? I call it genocide. STOP SENDING ME ANY MORE EMAIL NOW!!!!! /s/ Paul Mitchell At 02:08 PM 5/27/97 -0400, you wrote: >Well Paul, I consider your messages to be as equally adjitating >and I just received three of yours no thank you very much right >out of the blue air! You requested I leave you alone a long time >ago and I have done that....now I get three. > >I recommend you practice what you preach (and desire)! > >So tell ya what let's do? I'll remove your name/address, >and you remove my name/address (both at work _AND_ at home!) >and we'll call it a draw! > >Fair enough? > >Roger >-------------------------------------------------- > >>Mr. Cravens, >> >>I regard messages like this, and >>your multitude of other messages, >>to be unwanted. So, please take >>me off ALL of your lists, permanently. >> >>See Senator Reigle's testimony, >>for corroboration. You might also >>contact Joyce Riley, for a first-hand >>account of genocide. >> >>I now rank the CDC somewhere below the >>deepest sewer. Sorry, but that is >>the truth about my opinion. >> >>You are entitled to yours; >>I am entitled to mine. >> >>Thank you, and goodbye. >> >> >>/s/ Paul Mitchell >> >>copy: Supreme Law School (witnesses) >> >> >> >>At 01:32 PM 5/27/97 -0400, you wrote: >>>Get a grip Paul! You're about to fall off the ledge of the cliff >>>(again!). >>> >>>Roger Cravens >>>Atlanta, GA >>>ke4yqz@mindspring.com >>> >>>[Nice address, huh?] >>>-------------------------------------------------------------- >>>At 10:06 AM 5/27/97 EST, you wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> ---------- >>>>From: Paul Andrew Mitchell >>>>To: rbg3 >>>>Subject: Cravens at CDC >>>>Date: Saturday, May 24, 1997 1:20AM >>>> >>>>Roger: >>>> >>>>I got this from that idiot Mitchell; I don't plan to answer him. >>>>He hasn't changed his tune. >>>> >>>>Bill >>>> >>>>================================================================== >>>> >>>>Dear Bill, >>>> >>>>Ask Mr. Cravens by what authority he was >>>>utilizing computers at the Centers for >>>>Disease Control to screen and forward >>>>email on "patriot" topics, upwards of >>>>4 hours per day. Inquire of him also >>>>as to any prior knowledge he had, or did not >>>>have, of CDC's complicity in the inoculation >>>>of anthrax-tainted serum into American >>>>soldiers bound for the Gulf War. See >>>>Senator Don Reigle's testimony before >>>>Congressional committee on this subject, >>>>for substantiation of CDC's prior knowledge. >>>> >>>>/s/ Paul Mitchell >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>At 10:24 AM 5/23/97 -0500, you wrote: >>>>>Reposting, faxing, copying, and any and all methods of >>>>>distributing this message are encouraged (as always). >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>At 08:06 AM 5/23/97 EST, Roger Cravens wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>As much as I despise the idea of blowing up a federal >>>>>>building to make a point, McVeigh has very keen insight >>>>>>into the exact problems facing the population of this >>>>>>country. >>>>>> >>>>>>Until the entire Congress gets the idea that this >>>>>>country has come almost full circle back to where >>>>>>it began with a profoundly repressive and >>>>>>arrogant government that is currently totally out >>>>>>of control, these types of incidents will most likely >>>>>>continue and the Feds (for the most part) will be >>>>>>absolutely powerless to stop it. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Up to this point, Roger, I concur 100%. Then you write the >>>>>following: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>The thing that has me amazed is that such civil >>>>>>disobediance/terrorism took so long to surface. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>I think your meaning was "The thing that has me amazed is that >>>>>such terrorism took so long to surface." I would also agree with >>>>>that. >>>>> >>>>>What I take exception to is your combining civil disobedience with >>>>>terrorism as if they were the same. This makes about as much >>>>>sense as writing militia/terrorism, Christian activism/terrorism, >>>>>or Girl Scouts/terrorism. >>>>> >>>>>Civil disobedience is when a group stands up and says "We will not >>>>>comply with these unlawful, unconstitutional statutes which >>>>>pretend to be laws. We intend to restore limited, Constitutional >>>>>government through the means of not submitting to nor cooperating >>>>>with unconstitutional statutes. Government terrorism will not >>>>>sway us from our righteous course. There are far more patriotic >>>>>citizens than there are government employees who are willing to >>>>>attempt to enforce unconstitutional statutes. We will overcome >>>>>government oppression and we will restore our beloved >>>>>Constitutional Republic, so help us God!" >>>>> >>>>>This kind of non-violent, not passive, resistance to unlawful >>>>>actions by government calls for extreme courage on the part of >>>>>patriots. Civil disobedience calls for the kind of courage to >>>>>stand unarmed and face a tank (as seen in China). This is what is >>>>>required to stop the loss of our Liberty and the infringement of >>>>>our Rights which are protected by the Constitution and should be >>>>>protected by all government employees who honor their oath to >>>>>support and defend our United States Constitution. >>>>> >>>>>Let us keep in mind that our goal is to restore limited, >>>>>Constitutional government to our nation and our states. Let us >>>>>hold up our United States Constitution (and state constitutions, >>>>>as appropriate) as our authority to limit government and as the >>>>>document which protects (not grants) our rights. Let us proclaim >>>>>that it is our intention to restore limited, Constitutional >>>>>government by non-violent means. We want to utilize the Ballot >>>>>Box and the Jury Box and keep the Ammo Box in reserve. To utilize >>>>>the ballot box we must stop the secret computer manipulation of >>>>>voting totals and educate the public not to vote for career >>>>>politicians who have repeatedly violated their oath to support and >>>>>defend our constitutions. To utilize the Jury Box we must educate >>>>>the public to become fully informed jurors (call 1-800-TEL-JURY). >>>>>To have an Ammo Box to keep in reserve we must continue to form >>>>>militia units, the more public the better (and the more public the >>>>>more lawful - all governmental authority comes from the people and >>>>>a militia unit formed by inviting the participation and the vote >>>>>of all the people in a county is unquestionably lawful). >>>>> >>>>>For a shining example of non-violent (not passive) effort that >>>>>changed a mighty government, look to India and the story of >>>>>Gandhi. We draw our strength from God and most of us base our >>>>>lives on our spiritual understandings. Let us remember that all >>>>>people have the right to honor God in the manner they understand >>>>>to be most appropriate. Let us also remember that Liberty means >>>>>that some people will have the right to believe and to do things >>>>>of which we do not approve. So long as no one infringes on the >>>>>rights of another, we will just have to accept that people have >>>>>the right to be different. Let us strive to keep our personal >>>>>religions to ourselves and keep other divisive beliefs out of our >>>>>efforts to restore limited, Constitutional government. >>>>> >>>>>We do not want freedom in our country. Freedom ends up with the >>>>>stronger imposing their views on the weaker. We want Liberty in >>>>>our country, which is personal freedom which stops just short of >>>>>infringing on another's rights. We do not want democracy in our >>>>>country. Democracy is two wolves and one sheep deciding what to >>>>>eat for lunch. We want to fully restore our limited, >>>>>democratically elected, Constitutional Republic. The rights of >>>>>minorities are protected in our Constitutional Republic, unlike in >>>>>a true democracy. >>>>> >>>>>Please do not confuse civil disobedience with terrorism. Civil >>>>>disobedience is what patriots do. Terrorism is what >>>>>unconstitutional government and some criminal radicals do. >>>>> >>>>>for Liberty, >>>>>Bill Utterback >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>butterb@connecti.com (backup: butterb597@aol.com) >>>>> >>>>>"It is not the function of our Government to keep the citizen from >>>>>falling into error; it is the function of the citizen to keep the >>>>>Government from falling into error." >>>>>U.S. Supreme Court in American Communications Association v. Douds, >>>>>339 U.S. 382,442 >>>>> >>>>>World's Smallest Political Quiz: http://www.self-gov.org/quiz.html >>>>> >>>>>Libertarian Party: http://www.rahul.net/lp/ >>>>> >>>>>Fully Informed Jury Association: http://www.fija.org/ >>>>>http://www.primenet.com/~slack/fija/fija.html >>>>> >>>>>Gun Owners of America: http://www.gunowners.org/ >>>>> >>>>>Police Against the New World Order: >>>>>http://www.police-against-nwo.com/index.htm >>>>> >>>>>-----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- >>>>>Version: 2.6.2 >>>>> >>>>>mQCNAzLFeJcAAAEEAMI46f9z/FPADKcgTeFXl5Eeinvn++ZpkJieQS34uKd5y5uo >>>>>GHqt/o5ZKEuyxpv2RIfktrp5u2vXKeDOQDXEVozwIVCyf01BfDxyhTsqVKr1r8rh >>>>>jpBIwTEFfevVN61a5ek//lgb45yybtkvi+R57Ydv0k+EGG8w4Q37IrX2qee5AAUR >>>>>tCVCaWxsIFV0dGVyYmFjayA8YnV0dGVyYkBjb25uZWN0aS5jb20+ >>>>>=6Xz3 >>>>>-----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>>======================================================================== >>>>Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S. : Counselor at Law, federal witness >>>>email: [address in tool bar] : Eudora Pro 3.0.1 on Intel 586 CPU >>>>web site: http://www.supremelaw.com : library & law school registration >>>>ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776 : this is free speech, at its best >>>> Tucson, Arizona state : state zone, not the federal zone >>>> Postal Zone 85719/tdc : USPS delays first class w/o this >>>>======================================================================== >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>----------------------------------------------------------------- >>>| "Liberty is NEVER an option ... only a condition to be lost!" >>>|---------------------------------------------------------------- >>>| Roger Cravens >>>| South East Signals Intelligence Group BBS >>>| Atlanta, GA >>>| Specializing in Federal Frequencies >>>| (770-) 942-1089 >>>----------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >> >>======================================================================== >>Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S. : Counselor at Law, federal witness >>email: [address in tool bar] : Eudora Pro 3.0.1 on Intel 586 CPU >>web site: http://www.supremelaw.com : library & law school registration >>ship to: c/o 2509 N. Campbell, #1776 : this is free speech, at its best >> Tucson, Arizona state : state zone, not the federal zone >> Postal Zone 85719/tdc : USPS delays first class w/o this >>======================================================================== >> >> >----------------------------------------------------------------- >| "Liberty is NEVER an option ... only a condition to be lost!" >|---------------------------------------------------------------- >| Roger Cravens >| South East Signals Intelligence Group BBS >| Atlanta, GA >| Specializing in Federal Frequencies >| (770-) 942-1089 >----------------------------------------------------------------- > > ======================================================================== Paul Andrew, Mitchell, B.A., M.S. : Counselor at Law, federal witness email: [address in tool bar] : Eudora Pro 3.0.1 on Intel 586 CPU web site: http://www.supremelaw.com : library & law school registration ship to: c/o 2509 N. 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