Posted by Common Right Group on April 04, 1998 at 05:24:07:
In Reply to: Re: Bad Karma Paul Mitchell? posted by Two Cities on April 03, 1998 at 18:15:14:
: My meager wooden nickel on other issues of jurisdiction.
: county vs. County vs. COUNTY
: Actual borders are assigned to counties. There descriptors are township, range, section, east, west, north and south to mention a few. The legal descriptions make sure that they read like places on the earth.
: Counties (I'm guessing, haven't seen one) give Legal descriptions with Township, Range, Section etc. and it is doubtful whether these descriptions actually reference places, but rather points of beginning. Points are of course mathematical abstractions with no extension in physical space.
: COUNTIES give LEGAL DESCRIPTIONS WITH TWP, RGE, SEC, POB ETC. and are the locus for the collection of PERSONAL PROPERTY TAXES NEVER SPECIFIED WITH A UNIT OF ACCOUNT. THE PRESENTMENT IS ENTIRELY MADE UP OF NUMBERS and the word dollar is absent. Does a legal definition exist for the sign "S"?
: COUNTIES ARE ENTIRELY ROMAN, AND DO NOT APPEAR TO HAVE ANY KNOWLEDGE OF LOWER CASE LETTERS, ALTHOUGH THEY DO RECOGNIZE THE ARABIC NUMBERS.
: I'm beginning to think that the county treasurer which oversees a lawful realm of property taxation contracts with the County Treasurer for the collections concerning artificial entities, and the County Treasurer with knowledge of who the Legal Owner is in the County, further contracts with the COUNTY TREASURER for collections of PRESENTMENTS delivered to TENANTS IN FIEF, RETURNING IMAGINARY COMMERCIAL CREDIT WITH 'PAYMENT'.
: The legal hooks arise via the common mechanism of property transfers utilizing Real (REAL) Estate (ESTATE) Agents and Title Companies and Mortgage lenders and brokers. Their general system will ensure that the man/woman is artfully translated into either one or two separate fictions along the way. The process seems to exist to avoid this trap, and it is in plain sight within at least the RCW. The obfuscation is quite old, at least 95 years judging by an old deed (the county transcription).
: A correctly executed property transfer of land conveying a place on the earth requires attention to miniscule detail, and the shedding of several decades (if not centuries) of language destruction. Every single word is a potential land mine.
: The degree of legal fiction that attaches to an individual seems to be closely related to being able to attach an address to the individual's name, thereby rooting the individual to a fixed or permanent location. These entities are address fixated when compelled to communicate.
: The COUNTY will only COMMUNICATE with BACKWARDS SPELLED AND COMMATIZED YOU. Any other required communication the COUNTY kicks back up to the next level, the County which communicates with your correct name but insists on the existence of an non c/o address. My guess is they would have to kick it back up another level, to county, to be able to communicate directly with the individual. That is of course undesirable from their viewpoint since such an imposition would rapidly crumble status quo.
: These separate corporate personas that get attached to most people through the course of daily living do not appear to be inextricably melded, ie. with awareness of the separate nature Two Cities is easily distinguishable from Cities, Two and CITIES, TWO etc. If other individuals serving in corporate capacities on directorships of corporations in this land can differentiate their hats, so can we. Sometimes it might just be convenient to purchase CITY WATER and for the purposes of that billing statement become a person as long as the liability is limited.
Nice theory. What does it mean? First of all, What is an individual? An individual what?
The word "Individual" is an adjective, so that makes all general uses of the term too vague to be valid for use in law.
We bring this up because we weren't sure that the word itself was not defined somewhere in California's statutes. It's not, except, like in the federal, to list a bunch of junk it "may include." So we ran this little test past a local bureaucrat, and got about the same reaction one would expect from a cat being chased by a large dog. The actions and expressions varied from total arrogance to bewilderment and befudlement to finally calling the marshalls to have me escorted out of the building.
Well, it's a word they use, so they ought to be able to tell me what it alludes to.
You're the one that brought up the subject of land mines. Sort of embarassing to step on one you planted?
All in good fun, but true nonetheless.
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